NUFC Transfer Rumours

[SUPERTOON]

24 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

We sell two purples this summer imo. The test is going to be replacing them and how we we approach it. Biggest window since the first January one under these owners. 

Agree, be interesting to see what happens. Tino goes imo with only two years left. I also think Tonali and Gordon push for moves.

[Yorkie]

Never heard of Rushworth but see he's got two full seasons of Championship football under his belt. 0 goals in 200+ appearances not the best record though.

[stozo]

1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

We don't need to sell quickly at all man, we need to be smart and not just offload our assets the first time someone throws in a bid (not that I think we've done that at all, remember that Isak bloke?)

It's a balance. In all likelihood, we're not going to be able to buy players at a rate substantially ahead of sales. To give one example, we're probably not going buy a Tonali replacement in advance of a sale - that means the later in the window it goes, the more challenging inbound recruitment will be. We need to sell at the right price, but also not wait too late that smart recruitment is impossible. I assume our way of working will be very transparent this summer in that everyone is for sale, this is the price, if it's met it gets done and if it doesn't then it doesn't, and that then hopefully avoids another Isak-like fiasco. 

[Dokko]

1 minute ago, stozo said:

It's a balance. In all likelihood, we're not going to be able to buy players at a rate substantially ahead of sales. To give one example, we're probably not going buy a Tonali replacement in advance of a sale - that means the later in the window it goes, the more challenging inbound recruitment will be. We need to sell at the right price, but also not wait too late that smart recruitment is impossible. I assume our way of working will be very transparent this summer in that everyone is for sale, this is the price, if it's met it gets done and if it doesn't then it doesn't, and that then hopefully avoids another Isak-like fiasco. 

 

Common sense.

 

 

Won't catch on, like.

[Yorkie]

If Tonali is leaving, I think avoiding an Isak-like fiasco hinges entirely on the player's behaviour. That was the main reason it played out on the way that it did last summer.

 

It's all very well saying "we'll only sell you for the right price and you'll be staying here unless someone pays it," if the player has a good attitude and is happy to commit to the team in the event he stays. But if the player is literally going on fucking strike - thereby: turning himself into a financial albatross, dramatically reducing his transfer value, and dividing the squad - it puts us between a rock and a hard place. 

 

In that scenario we've got three options: 

 

-- sell early, thereby preventing a saga and moving on quickly... at the cost of selling him for a price probably well below our valuation

 

-- sell only when we receive an offer close to our valuation... at the cost of a disruptive saga and our own recruitment planning

 

-- don't sell, thereby upholding a hardball reputation but at goodness known what cost; potentially the most of all

 

Given our PSR situation and the critical need for us to maximise every sale we can (remember how many offers we rejected for Longstaff!), I think we were backed into the second option and it's a fucking miracle we still managed to get £130million out of Liverpool.

[Dokko]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

If Tonali is leaving, I think avoiding an Isak-like fiasco hinges entirely on the player's behaviour. That was the main reason it played out on the way that it did last summer.

 

It's all very well saying "we'll only sell you for the right price and you'll be staying here unless someone pays it," if the player has a good attitude and is happy to commit to the team in the event he stays. But if the player is literally going on fucking strike - thereby: turning himself into a financial albatross, dramatically reducing his transfer value, and dividing the squad - it puts us between a rock and a hard place. 

 

In that scenario we've got three options: 

 

-- sell early, thereby preventing a saga and moving on quickly... at the cost of selling him for a price probably well below our valuation

 

-- sell only when we receive an offer close to our valuation... at the cost of a disruptive saga and our own recruitment planning

 

-- don't sell, thereby upholding a hardball reputation but at goodness known what cost; potentially the most of all

 

Given our PSR situation and the critical need for us to maximise every sale we can (remember how many offers we rejected for Longstaff!), I think we were backed into the second option and it's a fucking miracle we still managed to get £130million out of Liverpool.

 

We'll probably see a lot of delayed movement anyway due to World Cup. Though that doesn't include Tonali, shame. 

[KingArthur]

56 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Likely to see more of him against a decent level of European competition.

I think there are many better teams than Porto in PL.

[Holmesy]

7 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

If Tonali is leaving, I think avoiding an Isak-like fiasco hinges entirely on the player's behaviour. That was the main reason it played out on the way that it did last summer.

 

It's all very well saying "we'll only sell you for the right price and you'll be staying here unless someone pays it," if the player has a good attitude and is happy to commit to the team in the event he stays. But if the player is literally going on fucking strike - thereby: turning himself into a financial albatross, dramatically reducing his transfer value, and dividing the squad - it puts us between a rock and a hard place. 

 

In that scenario we've got three options: 

 

-- sell early, thereby preventing a saga and moving on quickly... at the cost of selling him for a price probably well below our valuation

 

-- sell only when we receive an offer close to our valuation... at the cost of a disruptive saga and our own recruitment planning

 

-- don't sell, thereby upholding a hardball reputation but at goodness known what cost; potentially the most of all

 

Given our PSR situation and the critical need for us to maximise every sale we can (remember how many offers we rejected for Longstaff!), I think we were backed into the second option and it's a fucking miracle we still managed to get £130million out of Liverpool.

It seemed like the lack of planning and groundwork on signings undid us as much as anything else. Don't think our selling of the club was up to much either but both of those fall to the D0F I assume, and we didn't have one.
If we're going to sell Tonali before buying his replacement, we need to have as concrete an agreement in place with his replacement as possible. Obviously agents and other clubs coming in late can always derail things but hopefully the prep work is well underway already to avoid another situation like last summer.

[TRon]

58 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Tino inexplicably only has 2 years left and seemingly isn't interested in renewing so we will have to shift him. 

 

We might end up pricing Sandro out of a move as he's got a long time left. 

 

Tino is the one I was thinking we have to sell. The others like Tonali and Gordon would have to kick up a stink as they are on long contracts. 

[Yorkie]

35 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

It seemed like the lack of planning and groundwork on signings undid us as much as anything else. Don't think our selling of the club was up to much either but both of those fall to the D0F I assume, and we didn't have one.

 

I don't agree with that at all but probably best not to go into the reasons yet again.

 

To put it non-specifically, my view is that whilst we clearly had our own issues, we got royally fucked by factors broadly out of our control.

[Holmesy]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I don't agree with that at all but probably best not to go into the reasons yet again.

 

To put it non-specifically, my view is that whilst we clearly had our own issues, we got royally fucked by factors broadly out of our control.

We'll be in agreement about some of them no doubt. But I do believe in general clubs start talking to agents early and get a good sense of their chances of signing a player. So either we got lied to a lot by player agents, other (more attractive) clubs came in late and turned the player's head or we didn't do enough groundwork and left ourselves in a reactive state.

[Stuy_O]

Well we prioritised Mbuemo then put the phone down as soon as we heard his wage demands? 

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Dokko said:

 

We hung on and derailed the season. Aye, I remember. Worked out spiffing. 

 

Funny that we missed out on about 8 targets even though we were in the Champions League and some of those players were moving to clubs not even in Europe...

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 hour ago, stozo said:

It's a balance. In all likelihood, we're not going to be able to buy players at a rate substantially ahead of sales. To give one example, we're probably not going buy a Tonali replacement in advance of a sale - that means the later in the window it goes, the more challenging inbound recruitment will be. We need to sell at the right price, but also not wait too late that smart recruitment is impossible. I assume our way of working will be very transparent this summer in that everyone is for sale, this is the price, if it's met it gets done and if it doesn't then it doesn't, and that then hopefully avoids another Isak-like fiasco. 

 

That's exactly my point.

 

[Dokko]

8 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Funny that we missed out on about 8 targets even though we were in the Champions League and some of those players were moving to clubs not even in Europe...

 

What like manure? You honestly think us being outside of Europe for a season is the same as them. Fucking hell. 

 

We need to take advantage of every gain, no matter how small, and even then, legacy clubs are always going to pull certain players. We wouldn't even have had a look in without CL. 

 

You must be taking the piss or on a fishing trip. 😂

[nufc123]

3 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Thing is with Tino he really ain't all that on the right hand side. Exceptional on the left but Hall still probably better. I've no idea if Williams is the one but I don't feel like an upgrade is an impossible job there. 

Going forward its quite an easy job. Livra is below average in attack. If we look at the other parts of his game I think hes superior to Williams. 

[Ronson333]

@Curva Sud Milanoany good?

 

 

[Shearergol]

10 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

@Curva Sud Milanoany good?

 

 

 

He's mentioned him a few times recently. Looks a cracking player from the highlights I've seen.

[Weezertron]

Just want to see a good mix of transfer fees. They can't all be 50m.

[Shearergol]

18 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

Just want to see a good mix of transfer fees. They can't all be 50m.

 

Don't worry mate, we won't bid that.

[KaKa]

Man City supposedly looking at bringing back Pierce Charles a young keeper at Sheffield Wednesday that came through their academy, if Trafford moves on. Newcastle have been loosely linked too on Team Talk (Graeme Bailey though).

 

That's two young championship keepers linked today, both rank highly on crosses, sweeping outside of the box, and passing the ball. The dealing with crosses is a big one for me. A lot of the other links to keepers outside of the league have been keepers that weren't as good on that.

[Ronson333]

 

[JT24]

Can almost guarantee the “Magpie Meter Reading” will be manipulated depending on the rumours we actually want to believe. 

[Curva Sud Milano]

2 hours ago, Ronson333 said:

@Curva Sud Milanoany good?

 

 

 

Here in Italy insiders are talking about Liverpool, Tottenham, Newcastle, and Inter being very interested in him, starting at €45 million (Inter have already made an offer of €35 million which they have rejected).

The boy is exceptional... running, stamina, technique, dribbling (he's second in Serie A for successful dribbles after Yildiz, despite playing as RB), strong with both feet and can play on the right or left flank in all positions.

He and Leoni are the only two young Italian talents, but unlike Leoni who can only play CB, Palestra is a unicorn who can play in three different positions on each flank.

I hope you take him, if he goes to Inter I'll kill myself...

[Kid Icarus]

I'm sold based on that.

 

 

Edited April 9 by Kid Icarus