NWMag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 It is very interesting that mainly through us there is a lot of talk around FFP among the journalists at the moment, coupled with barely any business being done it seems. we may well not sign anyone this Jan but feel there is a bigger move on going in terms of changing the narrative around FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 We’re in a perfect taildive at the moment. The further we drop down the table and the more injuries we have making it more unlikely that we’ll get a big bounce back, the less the club will be willing to push in terms of FFP. The prize money difference alone between 4th and 14th is £25m. The potential lack of European football next year also damages next season’s finances. I’m becoming convinced no-one will be coming in, including on loan. Hope I’m wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 37 minutes ago, NWMag said: It is very interesting that mainly through us there is a lot of talk around FFP among the journalists at the moment, coupled with barely any business being done it seems. we may well not sign anyone this Jan but feel there is a bigger move on going in terms of changing the narrative around FFP I still think a lot of that is due to their own failure to understand it. The Ronny Gill’s patter has been borderline delusional until last week - that young tit who does the podcast with John Gibson going on about needing to sign a centre forward this window. Don’t know what planet some of them are on. I think it’s embarrassing how little they understood how hampered we are by FFP, and they’ve sold a false narrative to the support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 If we have to pay £40M + £7M in a loan fee for Philips I rather think we should buy 2 young players(1 midfielder and 1 forward) for £10-15M each. Two players who could be backup/squadplayers for now. Play them when others need a rest and give them time to develop and become good players in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Weezertron Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 57 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: If we have to pay £40M + £7M in a loan fee for Philips I rather think we should buy 2 young players(1 midfielder and 1 forward) for £10-15M each. Two players who could be backup/squadplayers for now. Play them when others need a rest and give them time to develop and become good players in the future. Ideally, but then we'd likely have the same situation as we do with Hall. Which doesn't help as Eddie will take a while to trust them, if they even meet his required level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Chelsea did well with the loophole of signing new players on 8-9 year contracts. this will imo catch up with them quite hard in few years but short term it was a quick fix vs FFP. and also they wont be able to sell players for 100-150 each season without weakening themselves unless saudi club will jump to help them, Boehly does have some Saudis connections. Wht they will get done for tho is the historical shady things they did under Abra which they admitted, so PL just has to charge them without much fuss and decide on the punishment given they admitted to these things blaming previous ownership. Uefa already threw 10m euro punishment for them for these. bit surprised takes PL lot longer for same charges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Phillips is toxic, good to avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, Mountain said: Phillips is toxic, good to avoid. Based on what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Mountain said: Phillips is toxic, good to avoid. How, exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just now, joeyt said: Based on what? I don't like his ears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) He isn’t young anymore, big wages, “expensive” considering no resale value. Also not sure about him considering how little he has played in the last couple of years. Much rather see that money spent elsewhere. Him not doing reasonably well is the least of the worrries but aye. Edited January 15 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Ikon said: I would imagine there are lots more options than Phillips. Ones that make more sense for now AND long term. We must be keeping our cards very close to our chests then because apart from Phillips I haven't heard a peep about other midfield options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TRon said: We must be keeping our cards very close to our chests then because apart from Phillips I haven't heard a peep about other midfield options. I meant it more like there are other options that would help us out. Even if not Phillips. Whether we are interested or not is a different matter. Even if we could afford him I wouldn’t go the Phillips route. But aye, seems very very quiet. Edited January 15 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, TRon said: We must be keeping our cards very close to our chests then because apart from Phillips I haven't heard a peep about other midfield options. Gotta hope it's a Saudi player. Makes a lot of sense, especially in context of a short-term, FFP-compliant fix, which Joelinton means we really need. I don't think people could dislike us more anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Will wait to see what the end of the transfer window brings, but so far this window, I’m disappointed in our recruitment team. We’ve been engulfed in an injury crisis for months, surely deals should have been in an advanced stage. We’ve had quite a long lead-in time in identifying what the team needs. I’m also frustrated at how we don’t seem to be shopping in markets where we could get better-value, if finances are this stretched. Brighton signing Barco for £8m springs to mind. Do our scouts even do anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 People are going to lose their shit when we don't sign anyone in Jan, despite the club continuing to say that we can't. Summer is when it's all going to happen lads, internally this season has been written off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 With transfer money being tight our recruitment is going to have to be spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I would have been delighted to have signed Phillips from Leeds. I genuinely thought he was a good centre-mid; excellent range of passing, good in the tackle and good positional sense, but the worry is that he's let his career stagnate without seemingly kicking up a fuss. Could you see Bruno happy to sit on the bench for big wages? I don't think he would. He strikes me as someone who's happy picking up his pay, without really doing anything, and that raises a big question mark for me. I do think Howe could reignite that fire in his belly, though, but only if the price us right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Will wait to see what the end of the transfer window brings, but so far this window, I’m disappointed in our recruitment team. We’ve been engulfed in an injury crisis for months, surely deals should have been in an advanced stage. We’ve had quite a long lead-in time in identifying what the team needs. I’m also frustrated at how we don’t seem to be shopping in markets where we could get better-value, if finances are this stretched. Brighton signing Barco for £8m springs to mind. Do our scouts even do anything? If we sign no one I think it's because they don't see the point in investing now in order to chase 7th, thereby reducing our summer budget and affecting next season's chase for 4th. It suggests to me that they trust Howe and can live with a mid-table finish this time. So should we tbh; I'm desperate to be in Europe and would love a Europa campaign, but I can respect the long-term sense in not recruiting now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) Would be criminal to not still aim for top 6 imo. Also, IF possible to get a quality young player in for CM it would help us now as well as getting said player ready for next season. Doesn’t necessarily have to be expensive. There are options out there I reckon. Would give a slight boost too to the current players. Instead of going with barely any central midfielders and basically giving up this season. Even if not literally. Edited January 15 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If we sign no one I think it's because they don't see the point in investing now in order to chase 7th, thereby reducing our summer budget and affecting next season's chase for 4th. It suggests to me that they trust Howe and can live with a mid-table finish this time. So should we tbh; I'm desperate to be in Europe and would love a Europa campaign, but I can respect the long-term sense in not recruiting now. Agreed. It’s a 5 year plan - if we sign no one this window I’m 100% confident we will invest in the summer and start next season in a considerably stronger place than we started this one. With less games to play if we haven’t made Europe. Progress is never a straight line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Mountain said: I don't like his ears. Now if you’d have said “ hair crime” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 56 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: I would have been delighted to have signed Phillips from Leeds. I genuinely thought he was a good centre-mid; excellent range of passing, good in the tackle and good positional sense, but the worry is that he's let his career stagnate without seemingly kicking up a fuss. Could you see Bruno happy to sit on the bench for big wages? I don't think he would. He strikes me as someone who's happy picking up his pay, without really doing anything, and that raises a big question mark for me. I do think Howe could reignite that fire in his belly, though, but only if the price us right. Don’t agree. obviously to everyone else it was obvious he wouldn’t get much game time at City, but he would have backed himself to break into the team. He’s given it 18 months and hasn’t made progress, and is now actively wanting to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 There are definitely deals to do in Europe and beyond for younger upcoming players. Not sure if we have the appetite for it this month or all the eggs are in the Philips basket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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