England's Lewis Hall

[Groundhog63]

29 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Infinitely happier than it being Wankquillo and Crapth.

Great patter that son, great 

[gbandit]

Aye, less of that. Neither Krafth nor Manquillo deserve any disdain

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said:

 

Thought this has been best compilation I've seen of him. He's defiantly seems very comfortable playing forward in those midfield positions as well as wide. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised Howe/Ashworth have identified him as someone that can play that hybrid free-role full back we've seen Pep use with Rico Lewis and Cancelo. Would certainly make our set-up much more fluid if we ever wanted to play a that hybrid style 4-3-3, 3-4-3, 3-2-5 with Trippier-Botman-Burn, then Hall being that wingback that overloads into inside attacking areas.

 

 

 

This was my thought when I saw a comp.  

[Nucasol]

Just now, gbandit said:

Aye, less of that. Neither Krafth nor Manquillo deserve any disdain

Just their time to move on. Some of the last relics of when finishing 17th was an achievement.

[Mahoneys Tache]

7 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Great patter that son, great 

This. People forget that there’s a human being behind the stats, social media bollocks and all the rest of it. These lads aren’t coding on fifa or pieces of fucking Lego. No need. 

[soyt]

People seem to forget that Krafth was brilliant for us when Trips got injured. Staying up 21/22 was a miracle and he was huge part of it. For me he was How'd on Miggy or Muprhy -level. Krafth 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by soyt

[Erikse]

I saw him start for Chelsea last season, he was their best player. There were memes after the game about how they've spent 600m and then an 18yo is their best player. It was one of the last games of the season, can't remember which one. He looked better than Burn, but that was just 1 game though

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Erikse

[Groundhog63]

1 minute ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

This. People forget that there’s a human being behind the stats, social media bollocks and all the rest of it. These lads aren’t coding on fifa or pieces of fucking Lego. No need. 

Shit patter, regardless. Mightve been witty in his head but shows how easy it is for a fan base to turn into w*nkers. File along with "we're a Champions league team now" 

[Kimbo]

I’ve seen Chelsea fans saying he’s more of a midfielder that’s been filling in at LB, I wonder if that’s how we see him. I still like the Juan Miranda link.

[gdm]

14 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Great patter that son, great 

Aye RTG patter that 

[vicente_14]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

I saw him start for Chelsea last season, he was their best player. There were memes after the game about how they've spent 600m and then an 18yo is their best player. It was one of the last games of the season, can't remember which one. He looked better than Burn, but that was just 1 game though

 

 

 

Looked their best player by some distance at the Etihad, was impressive, although the effort of most of the Chelsea side that day was questionable.

[JonBez comesock]

Livramento and Hall are virtually the same in terms of what they offer , Livramento maybe a little more pace 

 

Hall maybe better in terms of having a wand of a left foot (in comparison to Livramentos right) 

 

both love a tackle and both love a dribble

 

fantastic signings and both offer plenty in terms of attacking qualities 

 

 

[Mazzy]

Just now, Kimbo said:

I’ve seen Chelsea fans saying he’s more of a midfielder that’s been filling in at LB, I wonder if that’s how we see him. I still like the Juan Miranda link.

 

I imagine we'll have spoken to the player about his position and where he expects to play when he joins the club so that's not a worry for me. The fact he's clearly a versatile player is probably one of the reasons we're willing to pay what we are. 

 

Also, he's only 18, even if he's mainly played CM, if the player is willing it wouldn't be hard to mould him into a LB. Only got to look at Joelinton to see how a change of positon can do wonders for a player. 

[Hot Since 1882]

Catching up on what Chelsea fans are saying on Shed End... 

 

"Indeed, but if the cost of buying Marc Cucurella for £60m is selling Lewis Hall for £30m then I repeat - "what the f**k"??"

 

"If it’s true it’s a stupid strange decision. We are selling one of our best young talents , but signing Lavia for double that and we don’t actually need him . Honestly bad idea"

 

"We need a sell on clause and a buyback clause 

for Saudis we should raise the price to 50 million pounds. Give him a 5 year contract and you can pay in 5 instalments of 10 million 

Otherwise go f**k yourself 

it's absurd what they are doing in the Saudi league

the same people who fund that are the owners of Newcastle"

 

 

Someone on there mentioned playing CL football here this season vs. new deal signed and being loaned out to Palace - hadn't actually crossed my mind that us in the CL could be huge draw for him... 

 

CL football this season, family is Newcastle fans, going to be signing comparative sized contract anyway, and not 4th choice LB - add that all up we are a much bigger draw than Chelsea - which sounds lovely to say!!

 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Hot Since 1882

[vicente_14]

Never get the Manquillo abuse. Sure, he's not prime Cafu, but he's been dependable and a decent squad option, filling in at left and right fullback.
Steady if unspectacular.
We are heading to levels that are possibly beyond him but he's done ok and never complained or been a bad apple.
 

[Minhosa]

3 minutes ago, vicente_14 said:

Never get the Manquillo abuse. Sure, he's not prime Cafu, but he's been dependable and a decent squad option, filling in at left and right fullback.
Steady if unspectacular.
We are heading to levels that are possibly beyond him but he's done ok and never complained or been a bad apple.
 

Same and Krafth was looking really good before his injury.

[High Five o]

8 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said:

 

"We need a sell on clause and a buyback clause 

for Saudis we should raise the price to 50 million pounds. Give him a 5 year contract and you can pay in 5 instalments of 10 million 

Otherwise go f**k yourself 

it's absurd what they are doing in the Saudi league

the same people who fund that are the owners of Newcastle"

 

 

 

Love this coming from a Chelsea fan, much reflection, such insight. 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by High Five o

[Hot Since 1882]

21 minutes ago, Erikse said:

I saw him start for Chelsea last season, he was their best player. There were memes after the game about how they've spent 600m and then an 18yo is their best player. It was one of the last games of the season, can't remember which one. He looked better than Burn, but that was just 1 game though

 

 

 

 

Yeah, recall the same. Seemed the stand-out player for them in the clusterfuck that was Lampard. Watched the Man City Chelsea game he played in... remember being excited to watch both him and Lewis and see how they compared, and was Chelsea's best player. 

 

May have only handful of 1st team appearances but last season played against Man City in all four of their games, us twice, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U

[nufc123]

15 minutes ago, High Five o said:

Love this coming from a Chelsea fan, much reflection, such insight. 

 

 

 

Its just the same as other fanbases living in their own world. Liverpool ranting about us being the big money problem when they are entering Chelsea in a bidding war with inflated fees. Taking the Saudi money themself and complaining we are the problem. Manu fans refusing to give Howe praise because we had Isak coming off the bench one time. In the same sentence giving Ten Hag prasie and then he put Anthony on. Chelsea getting their FFP in shape because of the Saudis. Its just a mad stupid football world we are living in.

[The Bonk]

47 minutes ago, JUICE690 said:

Music makes me want to hang myself.

 

 It's absolutely lifting, made worse by me reading your comment before watching.  

[elbee909]

Everyone so moral and indignant about evil Saudi money. Until it comes to taking it themselves.

[Holmesy]

56 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said:

 

Thought this has been best compilation I've seen of him. He's defiantly seems very comfortable playing forward in those midfield positions as well as wide. 

 

Wouldn't be surprised Howe/Ashworth have identified him as someone that can play that hybrid free-role full back we've seen Pep use with Rico Lewis and Cancelo. Would certainly make our set-up much more fluid if we ever wanted to play a that hybrid style 4-3-3, 3-4-3, 3-2-5 with Trippier-Botman-Burn, then Hall being that wingback that overloads into inside attacking areas.

 

 

 

Whoever chose that music needs putting down 

[Stottie]

Great vid. After Gordon, Barnes, and Livramento, another remarkably two footed player.

[Wolfcastle]

39 minutes ago, Hot Since 1882 said:

Catching up on what Chelsea fans are saying on Shed End... 

 

 

 

"We need a sell on clause and a buyback clause 

for Saudis we should raise the price to 50 million pounds. Give him a 5 year contract and you can pay in 5 instalments of 10 million 

Otherwise go f**k yourself 

it's absurd what they are doing in the Saudi league

the same people who fund that are the owners of Newcastle"

 

Yeah its terrible when a rich dodgy links overseas owner buys a club and your club has a competitor isn't it Chelsea fans?

Incidentally this is our first Champions League qualification since 2003 when we were becoming a mainstay (behind only Man United and Arsenal) but unfortunately finished 5th in 2004. On a totally unrelated note that was the year Abramovich rocked up.

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Wolfcastle

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

If we do manage to stay up this year the likes of Hall, Livoramento will flourish in the PL, big if