buzza Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Only thing he lacks is real pace. He isn't slow but you can see he struggles to keep up with the quicker wingers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 4 minutes ago, buzza said: Only thing he lacks is real pace. He isn't slow but you can see he struggles to keep up with the quicker wingers I can't work out if it's pace he lacks or acceleration. I think it's the latter which is exasperated by some naive positioning. If he gets his defensive position correct, you'll see less of that. Do think he's fast once he gets going, which is probably why players find him hard to handle at the other end as that positioning doesn't count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Given the sizable fee, even for an undoubtedly talented 19 year old it would have been easy to just throw him in; ignoring the fact he looked naive defensively in his limited minutes, or that he wasn't training to Howe's standards. With hindsight he played it perfectly. This youth/player development will take some getting used to for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) 20 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Given the sizable fee, even for an undoubtedly talented 19 year old it would have been easy to just throw him in; ignoring the fact he looked naive defensively in his limited minutes, or that he wasn't training to Howe's standards. With hindsight he played it perfectly. This youth/player development will take some getting used to for the fans. I'm all for giving Eddie credit but his recent spell in the team has probably had more to do with injuries to Targett, Botman, Lascelles, Trippier and Tino, and Dummett being shit, than any managerial masterplan. Edited May 19 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 9 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: I'm all for giving Eddie credit but his recent spell in the team has probably had more to do with injuries to Targett, Botman, Lascelles, Trippier and Tino, and Dummett being shit, than any managerial masterplan. Has he not just done to Hall as he’s done with every other player he’s signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 It's a bit ironic when people whine that he should have been playing earlier when Hall himself has said he needed to do better. Eddie put him into the best possible place to succeed like he has done with so many others, him getting any stick for it is a bit mad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Alan Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Dokko said: I can't work out if it's pace he lacks or acceleration. I think it's the latter which is exasperated by some naive positioning. If he gets his defensive position correct, you'll see less of that. Do think he's fast once he gets going, which is probably why players find him hard to handle at the other end as that positioning doesn't count. Need to build the quads up more for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Eddie masterclass again. 19. Think he’s going to be a good signing and will feature regularly next season “I wasn’t at the level I could’ve been at in training. That comes from travelling so far from home and living on your own.” “It was difficult. As training went on, I started to show signs of improvement. The gaffer and all the coaches were helping me.” “After a few months, I felt like I was developing a rhythm in training and then it was [just] patiently waiting for my opportunity.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Hall is incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 People are being delusional if they think Howe took his time to mould him and wouldn't be playing Burn at LB if it wasn't for injuries to our centre backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Hell of a coincident that he was ready just in time when he was the only choice left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 9 hours ago, Dokko said: I can't work out if it's pace he lacks or acceleration. I think it's the latter which is exasperated by some naive positioning. If he gets his defensive position correct, you'll see less of that. Do think he's fast once he gets going, which is probably why players find him hard to handle at the other end as that positioning doesn't count. Basically you don't have a clue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Bondedcrown said: Basically you don't have a clue? Clue is in the 1st 4 words, dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Dokko said: Clue is in the 1st 4 words, dickhead. Cheers mate you must be dead hard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Bondedcrown said: Cheers mate you must be dead hard! Naa, just don't have the energy to put up with little wankstains on the Internet trying to be clever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Dokko said: Naa, just don't have the energy to put up with little wankstains on the Internet trying to be clever. Aaah bless! You teenagers are so tiresome! From the south are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Just now, Bondedcrown said: Aaah bless! You teenagers are so tiresome! From the south are you? Another regen with too much attitude and fuck all to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Its half 8 in the morning lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 9 hours ago, Dokko said: I can't work out if it's pace he lacks or acceleration. I think it's the latter which is exasperated by some naive positioning. If he gets his defensive position correct, you'll see less of that. Do think he's fast once he gets going, which is probably why players find him hard to handle at the other end as that positioning doesn't count. Yeah, seems to be lack of acceleration over the first couple of yards, once he gets motoring he's fine. It probably means he needs to not get touch tight against the faster wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Of course everyting you post is wisdom personified! From Newcastle then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I've met Dokko and he's an extremely elderly and marginally handsome man from Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Yeah, seems to be lack of acceleration over the first couple of yards, once he gets motoring he's fine. It probably means he needs to not get touch tight against the faster wingers. Aye. Needs to stand off a bit. Before my river died yesterday it felt like he was standing in front, which meant he had no chance to recover. I'm guessing that's the defensive positioning side to the game he's not got quite right, probably from playing mixed positions for most of his young career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Shak said: I've met Dokko and he's an extremely elderly and marginally handsome man from Newcastle. ? Cheers, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 5 minutes ago, Menace said: Its half 8 in the morning lads And? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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