Lewis Hall

[captainhaircut]

Arsenals starting 11 is usually the back 4 who are biggish lads but not huge. Saliba is the tallest at 6”4 and Ben White is an inch taller than Tino. 
 

Other than that they have generally had Rice and Havertz offering physical size. Partey recently has added to that. 
 

It’s not something we can’t match. Tino plus two centre backs, Joelinton and Isak leaves us only one “big” player lighter. Longstaff, Gordon and Bruno are all 6 foot whilst Hall’s aerial win percentage is very impressive. 
 

The reason Arsenal score so many from set pieces is their delivery and organisation. They use one of their “big” players to take half of their set pieces in Rice and they use another one to just be a pest on the keeper in White. So really they are only attacking set pieces with 4 “big” players. 
 

interesting to see what they do with Timber- he’ll likely slot in at left back ahead of Tomayasu or Kiwior and he’s only 5”10, same height as Hall. 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2024 by captainhaircut

[captainhaircut]

4 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

Ok I apologise if you’ve taken that the wrong way:

 

Ben White- 6”1

Gabriel- 6”3

Saliba- 6”4

Tomiyasu- 6”2

Rice- 6”1

Partey- 6”1

Odegaard- 5”10

Saka- 5”10

Martinelli- 5”10

Haverz- 6”4

 

Thats Arsenal’s outfield 10 recently.

by my count our side yesterday was 3 inches shorter overall. Drop Joelinton in for Wilson in a more usual side and it would about the same. 

[PRL]

2 minutes ago, captainhaircut said:

by my count our side yesterday was 3 inches shorter overall. Drop Joelinton in for Wilson in a more usual side and it would about the same. 

And if you bring in keepers, which are also pretty vital when we are talking about set pieces, we would also likely be level, and with Pope in there we would be clear. 
 

Partey has been out most the season too, and Arsenal have done okay without him. 
 

I don’t have energy to go round and round in circles, different opinions make the game and forums, just have to acknowledge they are just that - opinions. 
 

almost missed the KO in the boxing arguing about the height of Arsenal’s team, need to reassess my priorities. 

[Toon1892]

3 minutes ago, captainhaircut said:

by my count our side yesterday was 3 inches shorter overall. Drop Joelinton in for Wilson in a more usual side and it would about the same. 

Yes but our third best defensive aerial player- Tino, wasn’t good enough to mark Burnley’s third best attacking player. Hence they scored. It’s our depth of good players in the air that is currently missing. I agree though if we keep Joelinton fit it is probably less of an issue. And with him fit we did manage to bully them at home this season and may have even had a bigger side with burn at left back.

 

When Burn and Joelinton didn’t play at the Emirates I think they scored 2 or 3 set pieces against us.

[Groundhog63]

Lewis Hall

Not very tall

Good on the ball

That is all

[Sibierski]

6 hours ago, Toon1892 said:

Yes but the top managers allow conceding 5 or 6 counter attacking goals a season to prevent an extra 12 or 13 set piece goals a season.

 

Sorry but it isn’t rocket science why every top manager is doing it. I know people on this forum know more than Pep and Arteta and would do a better job but please just look at what is happening.

 

Man City were solid at set pieces even when they had smaller players.

 

Just a case of at the moment, the best players in certain positions are tall.

 

As long as you've got 4 players that can outright be a threat in the air, that's fine. Long term, Lewis will be more of a full back for Man City and Arsenal will have Timber. Both on short side.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Toon1892]

15 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

 

Man City were solid at set pieces even when they had smaller players.

 

Just a case of at the moment, the best players in certain positions are tall.

 

As long as you've got 4 players that can outright be a threat in the air, that's fine. Long term, Lewis will be more of a full back for Man City and Arsenal will have Timber. Both on short side.

Disagree a little here. Man City have the money to buy players that are class in the air and on the floor. 
 

I don’t think ‘it just happens that they’re both’. They’ve scouted those players and signed them because they’re good at both.

[Dokko]

All this drama for an extra couple of inches.

[Weezertron]

Whats the gist in here? That he'll never made it because he's short?

[Ikon]

I really do like some of the unexpected turns he makes that also are very effective most times. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

6 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

He's not in the team because the experts have judged that he's ready. He's in the team because there are no other options. He looks ready now - despite the experts not thinking he's ready.

 

This is my issue with some people. They act like everything is part of a master plan. If not for injury crisis Hall would be sitting on the bench getting few minutes.,

Well, we’ll never know. But we do know that Paully D isn’t starting or Alex Murphy for that matter. 

[Pata]

7 hours ago, STM said:

Do Liverpool play with CBs at fullback? Do Villa?

 

Joe Gomez has 41 apps this season at LB/RB. Ezri Konsa has played as a RB a lot this season. 

[STM]

2 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Joe Gomez has 41 apps this season at LB/RB. Ezri Konsa has played as a RB a lot this season. 

 

A fair point but I'd suggest much of them were out of necessity, rather than choice.

[cubaricho]

Ooooo the Lewis Hall thread has four new pages, must be some good news about him...

 

 

Nope, just some height nonce talk.  

 

 

Edited May 6, 2024 by cubaricho

[Pata]

Just now, STM said:

 

A fair point but I'd suggest much of them were out of necessity, rather than choice.

 

Some of it is that but neither have really played a lot there in the previous season. Konsa has played at RB often even when Cash has been fit. Similar with Gomez, Klopp has played him a lot even at LB ahead of the more traditional LB Tsimikas when Robertson was injured. 

[Holloway]

You'd think Hall has the stature of a Fraser or a Lamptey going off sone of the craic on here 

[High Five o]

I for one, will say that size does not always matter.

[LFEE]

3 minutes ago, Holloway said:

You'd think Hall has the stature of a Fraser or a Lamptey going off sone of the craic on here 

He’s still growing also.

[Holloway]

Just now, LFEE said:

He’s still growing also.

Mebbies

[Checko]

If Hall was to get a mohawk, would that help?

[Guest]

Never ever ever posting song lyrics again 

[Lotus]

Seems to me, with his very very good technique and range of passing, it’s more likely he’ll be a Trippier type of playmaking fullback. On the other side we can still have Tino. He’s very athletic and can probably play well as RCB in a back 3 shape when Hall moves forward.

Hall just has to grow as a player and gain the confidence Trippier has. 
We’re an excellent team for him to do that.

[ryanegg]

2 hours ago, High Five o said:

I for one, will say that size does not always matter.

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[High Five o]

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