Newcastle United 1-2 Liverpool (27/08/23)

[r0cafella]

Just now, christ said:

We weren’t poor in the first half. Liverpool are probably the one team that thrive on absolute chaos more than us, as we found out last season. We needed to suck that out of the game and once we did we were the better team. They basically had nothing after the first twenty mins.

 

In the second half we didn’t finish them off, panicked and shafted ourselves. That simple. We took of anyone who carried any sort of meaningful threat, gave them the impetus to go for it during the last twenty mins because they were already 1-0 down. Minute they equalised we were losing that.

For my money, after the goal and sending off we were poor, our foot was off the gas no intensity to our play and didn’t do what I’d expect. 
 

we thought we had the game won and it’s come back to bite us on the arse. 

[Gawalls]

Arsenal needed goals this weekend and got them. Liverpool needed goals Abe’s got them. Man U needed goals and got them, we had loads of chances ands didn’t get them. That’s the only difference in then teams and us at the moment imo.

 

however, all three results this season are all better than the same games last season so there is some evidence we’re moving in the right direction.

[Collage]

Subbing Tonali AND Joelinton off was very strange

[Skeletor]

Unacceptable collapse. 1-0 up at home against ten men as a CL team to lose two goals like that and offer nothing going forward - completely unacceptable. Especially against these cultish cunts of all teams.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Not the first time we've fucked up against 10 with Howe either.

 

Christ, I'm fuming 

[looneytoon]

Gordon was the best player on the pitch. And he was subbed off. Madness.

[mikejaxer]

Just now, Collage said:

Subbing Tonali AND Joelinton off was very strange

To be fair, Joelinton looked like he was struggling a bit

[Kanj]

3 minutes ago, Sima said:

They’re a man down.  Why not have Isak and Wilson on the pitch at the same time to finish them off?

 

 

 

really good point

[Billy Warthog]

So that's the lesson that we all knew but the team still appears yet to learn... don't fuck about with the top teams! If you've got an advantage, use it! 

[Displayname]

9 minutes ago, Rod said:

It's not allowed.  Bruno is untouchable.

Yeah its weird, he clearly havent been in form for some time imo.

 

Also dont get people blaming Almiron. Our most dangerous along with Gordon today.

[Gawalls]

3 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said:

Yeah taking Gordon off was a mistake but not fucking Tonali, he just kept giving the ball away before he came off, Barnes was fucking hopeless too, I'm most wound up about him because all he has to do is square it to Wilson and we win the game, instead he does fucking nothing and loses it, moronic - leicester can have him back, fucking Liverpool man

You could also say though after tonali went off both of their goals were set up by a too easy pass through the middle.  Something they hadn’t managed when he was on the pitch .

[Nobody]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

Yeah its weird, he clearly havent been in form for some time imo.

 

Also dont get people blaming Almiron. Our most dangerous along with Gordon today.

Almiron incredibly unlucky to not score at least one. 

[toontownman]

Just now, worthy said:

This part - This pisses me off to insane degree, what the fuck was said in the HT talk? Why the fuck did we just turn in to this passive piss team?

I don't think we panicked. Quite the opposite. We got lulled into a self sense of security and left increasingly massive gaps in the middle. We got too nonchalant in CM and defensively and let Liverpool do what they do best. Passive is exactly right. We thought we were managing the game and did what Klopp wanted us to do. 

[Novocastrian]

Howe and the players need to own this. Not seen much ‘intensity’ recently. Very poor, we struggle with too much possession as we don’t have the guile to unlock the defence.

[Myleftboot]

2 minutes ago, looneytoon said:

Gordon was the best player on the pitch. And he was subbed off. Madness.

Its the same subs. You could have predicted them before the game.

[Dyeyzzon]

Just now, Gawalls said:

Arsenal needed goals this weekend and got them. Liverpool needed goals Abe’s got them. Man U needed goals and got them, we had loads of chances ands didn’t get them. That’s the only difference in then teams and us at the moment imo.

 

however, all three results this season are all better than the same games last season so there is some evidence we’re moving in the right direction.

 

Same four-goal margin against Villa, and we "lost by less" against Man City & Liverpool and that's better than last season?  

[Aiston]

3 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Yeah its weird, he clearly havent been in form for some time imo.

 

Also dont get people blaming Almiron. Our most dangerous along with Gordon today.

 

This forum hates Almiron with a passion.

 

 

[Yorkie]

2 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Almiron incredibly unlucky to not score at least one. 

 

Alisson's unbelievable save in the first half absolutely pivotal, as it turns out.

[Kid Icarus]

It was my poor niece's first match Worst match in a long while from us.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by Kid Icarus

[Lish007]

Just now, Dyeyzzon said:

 

Same four-goal margin against Villa, and we "lost by less" against Man City & Liverpool and that's better than last season?  

Well a +2 GD is better than nothing. 

 

 

[LiquidAK]

10 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

Scouse love-in on sky.

 

Annoying, but got to take it on chin. 

Honestly amazed you kept it on. I couldn't bare to see Carragher's face, had to turn it off.

[Rod]

9 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Don't think the players were good enough today at all.

 

Not a managerial issue today for me. Regardless of the defensive approach, we did not execute in that regard or in finishing off the game with a man advantage.

 

 

 

Definitely managerial f#ck up.  And I love Howe by the way.  He messed up big time and you know it.

[Thumbheed]

We were just so passive with our build up play today. Alot of times where we found ourselves in good positions and turned back on ourselves.

 

Alot to unpick today.

 

 

[KaKa]

5 minutes ago, worthy said:

Looking back, Almiron gets the chance to square it he has no pressure, and manages to just rocket it out. We need him out, he had so many chances yet nothing comes off it, and then always ALWAYS needing to turn cause he cant fucking use his other foot for anything, so it just slows down the whole.

 

A lot of our best opportunities to either score or open up teams in these tougher matches, tend to come down to Almiron making a play, and we know how that ends up.

 

Even when he plays well overall like he did today and against Man City. The key moments just don't come off for him.

 

I really think we need to now consider him as more of a backup and option against lesser teams. 

 

Need to look at starting Barnes on the left and Gordon on the right going forward. I just thin the pair of them are more likely to have something come off if they are on the pitch together for longer periods, like Almiron is.

[Nobody]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Alisson's unbelievable save in the first half absolutely pivotal, as it turns out.

That's a goal like 9 times out of 10, somehow that bounced out instead of in.