The Butcher Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 State of this ref Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, pubteam said: Wondered that myself Done on head to head, not goal difference. Dortmund beat us, so they're above us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Joelinton was garbage mind. Not his fault exactly but rarely if ever offers anything against a low block. Well spotted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: State of this ref Shit like that needs investigating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Need to sign to keep it in our hands for that last game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Izakaya said: How are we 3rd when level on points with Dortmund but have a better GD? Head to head??? Sounds like a pile of shite mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rod said: Are you stifler in disguise? No ? but it's a valid point that I'm making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Not really. They were organised, moved it well and we're really threatening on the break. We weren't at our very best, but that's partly because of the above. We were better second half, but that was partly game state as well with Dortmund getting deeper. Ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Can’t really complain, we were a little below our usual level but Dortmund played well, really well organised without the ball and always dangerous on the counter. When games are going like that it’s probably our biggest weakness.. chasing but against a team that’s happy for us to have the ball.. we didn’t have the ideas to break them down enough. The frustration grew. Snatched at chances we did have and looks like a costly game with injuries.. Isak may be out for a spell and Murphy who’s been excellent this season with a dislocated shoulder. Tonali ban incoming.. it was good to have Willock back though. Can't complain about Dortmund.. they did their homework. Ref was an absolute tosser though.. he wasn’t giving us anything tonight. So much blatant stuff he let go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Izakaya said: How are we 3rd when level on points with Dortmund but have a better GD? Because they beat us it's head to head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, pubteam said: So goal difference means nothing ? It goes to goal difference if the games between the two teams ended in draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said: Done on head to head, not goal difference. Dortmund beat us, so they're above us. Kinda shit way to do it, what if we beat them and end up on the same points? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, pubteam said: So goal difference means nothing ? If we beat them over there by a goal then it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Really really disappointed with that performance. Dortmund were smart and knew exactly what to do and how to play it (to be expected given their experience in Europe for the last god knows how many years). We showed a lot of inexperience in the game in general and couldn't figure them out yet still had 3 big moments which could easily have resulted in a goal. They looked in control for most of the game and they deserved to win, they took one of their chances and we didn't. We looked sloppy as fuck and thick as fuck too at times, we looked like the novices we are in Europe and their experience told in the end. Passing was poor, tempo was slow and we rarely threatened. They nullified us and ripped us on the counter, we were just beaten by a better, smarter team. We just need to put this in the lesson bank and learn from it as we'll have this situation again in the near future, similar to the Liverpool result. Learn from it, figure out what went wrong and be aware next time we're in this situation. This is why I was looking forward to watching this group - it's 6 tough fixtures and at the end of them all we'll end up a better, savvy intelligent unit. It's a loss tonight but we need to learn from the experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Dortmund used all of their experience and have quality oozing, they played us like a fiddle at times. Having said that we should have had 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: Thought we held our own and then some tonight, just got done in by some really astute attacking plays that nailed our vulnerabilities. On another night we come away with a 2-1 win, just wasn't meant to be. Few suspect performances but nothing to worry about long term. Just hope Isak and Murph are okay. As an aside, really like the attacking fret Targett can offer. Targett did not put a foot wrong from the moment he came on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, pubteam said: Kinda shit way to do it, what if we beat them and end up on the same points? If we beat them and finish on same points, it goes to goal difference. Was a bit surprised we threw Pope up because 0-2 could have been worth a point to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Boey_Jarton said: Not sure I agree with Dortmund being excellent given that second half like. Thought they were quite poor, very open on the left hand side and let us have a number of good chances. Definitely a good first half display though, looked good on break. Draw would have been fair. If we did that at their place everyone would be over the moon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we beat them over there by a goal then it does. Wow, what a really shit system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, midds said: Really really disappointed with that performance. Dortmund were smart and knew exactly what to do and how to play it (to be expected given their experience in Europe for the last god knows how many years). We showed a lot of inexperience in the game in general and couldn't figure them out yet still had 3 big moments which could easily have resulted in a goal. They looked in control for most of the game and they deserved to win, they took one of their chances and we didn't. We looked sloppy as fuck and thick as fuck too at times, we looked like the novices we are in Europe and their experience told in the end. Passing was poor, tempo was slow and we rarely threatened. They nullified us and ripped us on the counter, we were just beaten by a better, smarter team. We just need to put this in the lesson bank and learn from it as we'll have this situation again in the near future, similar to the Liverpool result. Learn from it, figure out what went wrong and be aware next time we're in this situation. This is why I was looking forward to watching this group - it's 6 tough fixtures and at the end of them all we'll end up a better, savvy intelligent unit. It's a loss tonight but we need to learn from the experience Is there a down thumb. Jesus Christ, another one on suicide watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 We always struggle against a low block. The first goal was always going to be pivotal, give them something to protect otherwise the game could have flipped like PSG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Boey_Jarton said: Targett did not put a foot wrong from the moment he came on Yeah, loved seeing him out there tbh. I love Burn, but an attacking fullback on both sides really helps us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Joelinton was garbage mind. Not his fault exactly but rarely if ever offers anything against a low block. His control seems to have mostly deserted him, really weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Joelinton was garbage mind. Not his fault exactly but rarely if ever offers anything against a low block. I knew this tedious, negtive dullard would he itching to get amongst it. Did you watch any of last season? What an absolute whopper. Edited October 25, 2023 by UncleBingo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Optimistic Nut said: If we beat them and finish on same points, it goes to goal difference. Was a bit surprised we threw Pope up because 0-2 could have been worth a point to them. Head to head goal difference? What happens if three teams all end up on the same points and each team has beaten another team twice? So Team 1 has beaten Team 2 twice, Team 2 has been Team 3 twice and Team 3 has beaten Team 1 twice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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