wyn davies Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Could buy him back on the very cheap , do him up a bit (like a house) then flog him again for maybe 10/20% more, I know I'm dreaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 13 hours ago, thomas said: maybe switching to italian food from english was worth 100k/w to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 hours ago, wyn davies said: Could buy him back on the very cheap , do him up a bit (like a house) then flog him again for maybe 10/20% more, I know I'm dreaming. The fact we got so much after signing him on a free is an absolute master stroke. He hardly played and when he did (apart from the Chelsea cup game), he didn't impress. I thought we also got decent money for Almiron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Really wish Kelly the best, came from a very difficult background to become a PL player and now is at Juventus, a great story and he’s a great role model. He’s not deserving of some of the (older) comments on here Edited May 22 by WilliamPS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Really wish Kelly the best, came from a very difficult background to become a PL player and now is at Juventus, a great story and he’s a great role model. He’s not deserving of some of the (older) comments on here No idea about his background and no issues with the lad personally. Just didn't see it for him as a football player. Which doesn't say much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Surely with the Lloyd Kelly deal are we not only getting €4.8m this summer which is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 7 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Surely with the Lloyd Kelly deal are we not only getting €4.8m this summer which is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things Eh? Where did you pluck that figure from exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 9 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Surely with the Lloyd Kelly deal are we not only getting €4.8m this summer which is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things When you sell you ‘book’ the full fee straightaway, regardless of whether it’s actually paid in instalments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 9 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Surely with the Lloyd Kelly deal are we not only getting €4.8m this summer which is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things Why do you always post negative posts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Why do you always post negative posts? Mackem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 16 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Surely with the Lloyd Kelly deal are we not only getting €4.8m this summer which is fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things Did Eddie mess the negotiations? Questions need to be asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Eh? Where did you pluck that figure from exactly? Lloyd #Kelly will be a permanent Juventus player! A minimum threshold of appearances in the season, easily achievable, has triggered the obligation to purchase. The economic figures: Kelly arrived in Juventus on loan until June 30, 2025 for an initial cost of 3 million euros, to which 0.8 million in additional costs are added. The cost for the definitive acquisition is set at 14.5 million euros, to be paid in three financial years, plus 2.7 million in additional costs. The contract also includes bonuses linked to sporting objectives up to a maximum of 6.5 million, which could increase the overall outlay well beyond 20 million. Barnes23, gbandit and SteV like this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, SteV said: When you sell you ‘book’ the full fee straightaway, regardless of whether it’s actually paid in instalments. Good to know didnt realise this thanks. So we book the fee in terms of FFP but as its in installments its about €5m extra in the "kitty" Edited May 23 by JigsawGoesToPieces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Just now, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Lloyd #Kelly will be a permanent Juventus player! A minimum threshold of appearances in the season, easily achievable, has triggered the obligation to purchase. The economic figures: Kelly arrived in Juventus on loan until June 30, 2025 for an initial cost of 3 million euros, to which 0.8 million in additional costs are added. The cost for the definitive acquisition is set at 14.5 million euros, to be paid in three financial years, plus 2.7 million in additional costs. The contract also includes bonuses linked to sporting objectives up to a maximum of 6.5 million, which could increase the overall outlay well beyond 20 million. Barnes23, gbandit and SteV like this Quote You do realise that isn’t how it works in terms of our ability to spend in PSR don’t you? The agreed fee in full is added to our profit and loss sheet, the actual schedule of payments is irrelevant in that regards, unless the club have cash flow issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Ronson333 said: Why do you always post negative posts? I don't? We have made a profit on someone who we signed on a free and was a bit part player at most, we have done really well to get as much as we have for him if it ends up being over €20m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Good to know didnt realise this thanks. So we book the fee in terms of FFP but as its in installments its about €5m extra in the "kitty" Whatever we are guaranteed this year goes into our FFP kitty. So let's take a round number of 20m, theoretically we could sign a 100m player on a 5 year contract and that 20m would pay for this year's installment of that deal. However, it's important to note that wages are included and our total FFP picture may look completely different. In short, installments mean absolutely nothing to any club, other than for cash flow purposes. Edited May 23 by STM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 41 minutes ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: I don't? We have made a profit on someone who we signed on a free and was a bit part player at most, we have done really well to get as much as we have for him if it ends up being over €20m You might think you’re clever, enjoy life rather being a wind up merchant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 11 hours ago, Ronson333 said: You might think you’re clever, enjoy life rather being a wind up merchant. Not intending to wind anyone up, just having an opinion on a newcastle forum which o im entitled to do as a fan of 30+ years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 1 hour ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Not intending to wind anyone up, just having an opinion on a newcastle forum which o im entitled to do as a fan of 30+ years Fair enough & good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Goodbye sweet Prince, we almost knew you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 13 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Good to know didnt realise this thanks. So we book the fee in terms of FFP but as its in installments its about €5m extra in the "kitty" Our 'kitty' is virtually infinite though. It's only what we are able to spend on PSR terms that's important Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 13 minutes ago, simonsays said: Our 'kitty' is virtually infinite though. It's only what we are able to spend on PSR terms that's important Aye I am no accountant but we don't actually need the money here the income is what we will out down on the books it's not like we need all the money upfront to sign anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 As I said a couple of days ago, the PSR profit may be quite small it depends on the clubs contractual obligations pertaining to his loyalty bonus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Wonder if there’s an extra payment in there for Juventus qualifying for CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Would love Juve in the CL, a European giant and a team I’d feel we can beat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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