Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: It makes logical sense in that if you go big on a 'keeper it means Pope also has to be replaced because he's far too good to be a number 2. Doing it this way means that we spend less, Pope stays, there's less disruption, we have better backup, and Trafford can potentially replace Pope in the way it's becoming apparent that Tino will replace Trippier. Could still see us buying a number 1 to replace Pope in a year or two. Can't see us losing money on Trafford at the price were looking to buy for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: So what is the issue then? Expectations Trafford to be world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 10 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: I get this but surely he needs games as this time in his career, surely pope would still be a starter... This is my problem, it’s hard to gain experience as a backup keeper without either being loaned out or first choice getting a big injury. It’s not like other positions where players need resting or subbing off after 60 minutes. If Pope stays fit then we’ve spent £20m on someone that barely plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, nufc123 said: Expectations Trafford to be world class. No idea what you are on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 2 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: No idea what you are on about. Its you talking about reality check. Was difficult this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, Kimbo said: This is my problem, it’s hard to gain experience as a backup keeper without either being loaned out or first choice getting a big injury. It’s not like other positions where players need resting or subbing off after 60 minutes. If Pope stays fit then we’ve spent £20m on someone that barely plays. I get what you are saying and for me Trafford has all of the bits to his game to be a top keeper. However, that will only come together with playing. Saying that Liverpool’s back up keeper looks quality and he has played less football than Trafford, despite being 25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Either he fulfills his potential or we recoup or profit from the 16m fee so it's not that big a gamble. There's always the chance that we sign an established top goalie in a few years anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 17 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: So what is the issue then? I think the issue is he's looked really weak in senior men's football so we're gambling on him filling out and being more dominant. Hopefully that comes with age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 I guess the big Georgian isn't happening then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: I think the issue is he's looked really weak in senior men's football so we're gambling on him filling out and being more dominant. Hopefully that comes with age This. Not rocket science to understand instead of being weirdly difficult for no reason. If we can afford the deal without affecting other more important issues (1st eleven) then I’m perfectly fine with it. I don’t rate him as of now. He might get better in a couple of years when he isn’t. a lamb anymore. I prefer a solid influence with leadership between the sticks. Long term it might be a good signing. Not even sure if he will get game time to develop. Unless we plan to loan him out with a recall option. Edited June 8 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Some of yous would be all over this if his name was James Tarkowski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) Trafford is young/home grown and Burnley have just been relegated. These opportunistic signings are becoming a trademark for us. Like Hall and Tino we are buying potential here. Edited June 8 by Smal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 The fact that he’s a Man City product is a good sign imo. Fits the pattern of buying promising young English players (Gordon, Tino, Hall) to develop for the long-term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: Fair point too. Everyone on here said Pope wasn't an improvement on Dubs. I think he's good, I'd trust him now at 22 over dubs or Karius. 5 years time he'll be England no1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 10 minutes ago, Menace said: I guess the big Georgian isn't happening then It was a @Jack27 thread. Jinxed it from the off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, Dokko said: Everyone on here said Pope wasn't an improvement on Dubs. I think he's good, I'd trust him now at 22 over dubs or Karius. 5 years time he'll be England no1. I'm pretty sure people were saying the same about Woodman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, Deuce said: The fact that he’s a Man City product is a good sign imo. Fits the pattern of buying promising young English players (Gordon, Tino, Hall) to develop for the long-term. Think I'm just worried he's going to turn into another Bazunu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, joeyt said: I'm pretty sure people were saying the same about Woodman Saying what? Woodman was missing a lot in his game, especially height which he couldn't fix. This is not the same situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 It's an era of Newcastle United I never thought I'd see, where we're seeing England Under 21 internationals as bad signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It's an era of Newcastle United I never thought I'd see, where we're seeing England Under 21 internationals as bad signings. Crackers. Him and Gordon starred in that tourney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 11 minutes ago, joeyt said: I think the issue is he's looked really weak in senior men's football so we're gambling on him filling out and being more dominant. Hopefully that comes with age You would expect it to come with age, it is rare to see a player that is a unit at such a young age and if the club wants to specifically develop that part of his game we can, like we have done with Anderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, Dokko said: Saying what? Woodman was missing a lot in his game, especially height which he couldn't fix. This is not the same situation. That he was going to be the next England number 1 because he'd played well in the various England youth teams Trafford has looked so weak this season from crosses, hopefully with age he'll get better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Just now, joeyt said: That he was going to be the next England number 1 because he'd played well in the various England youth teams Trafford has looked so weak this season from crosses, hopefully with age he'll get better Don't think so. I said that about pickford at Sunderland though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 (edited) I heard stuff about ‘if Burnley changed their keeper earlier they might’ve had a better chance’. Don’t know if true like. Was he the one brought in or taken out? edit: answered above Edited June 8 by Superior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Meh, cant be worse than dubravka but he isn’t a sweeper keeper and is shite with ball at his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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