Paul Mitchell to leave club by mutual consent at end of June (Official)

[andycap]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

What are you talking about and/or how many drinks have you had today? 

Cheeky arsehole. 

Howe will go back to his way of doing things. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, andycap said:

Cheeky arsehole. 

Howe will go back to his way of doing things. 

But why are you just assuming the worst at every turn? We don’t know that this has anything to do with a disagreement with Howe or his way of doing things. 

[Ikon]

8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

His opening gambit was utterly bizarre and set the tone for ruffling Howe's feathers and fingers being pointed at him tbh. Plenty said as much at the time and Howe had tons in the bank even before the success of this season.

 

I thought it had all been resolved after all of that drama, but it seems like for whatever reason now it's not going to work out.

I agree, he shouldn’t have spoken in public, just like Howe shouldn’t have spoken the way he did before the season started. 
 

Still, my point stands, we don’t know what’s been going on behind the scenes (if much at all) but that’s why I think it’s wrong to point fingers without facts/info. I guess some people always need a scapegoat. There might not even be one in this case and that’s why I don’t like it. 

[Myleftboot]

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

So I'd assume we will be back to the old transfer routine. 

Such a waste. 

Before Mitchell came we’d signed Bruno,Botman,Tonali,Isak. I quite like that transfer routine.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

2 minutes ago, andycap said:

Cheeky arsehole. 

Howe will go back to his way of doing things. 

 

What's Howe's way of doing things and what way has it been since it wasn't whatever what Howe's way is?

[Gallowgate Toon]

Still maintain it's a pretty overrated position and many of these 'strategic' people stay no longer than a year or two. More often than not, they just add another layer of ego.

 

 

[Fak]

Knock it off man andy.

[Alberto2005]

16 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Still maintain it's a pretty overrated position and many of these 'strategic' people stay no longer than a year or two. More often than not, they just add another layer of ego.

 

 

Who's going to do the deals though?

 

You can't have scouts negotiating everything can you, that's not their job.

[GEFAFWISP]

2 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

Who's going to do the deals though?

 

You can't have scouts negotiating everything can you, that's not their job.

Barry Fry.

[54]

17 minutes ago, andycap said:

Because Mitchell was revamping it if he leaves howe will probably go back to the way he does things. 

Howes way of doing things:

 

Absolute Hits: Trippier, Bruno, Burn, Botman, Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Hall, Livramento, Pope, Tonali

 

Provided Value in some way: Wood, Targett, Minteh, Kelly.

 

Too Early to Tell: Osula.

 

Miss: Vlach, Ashby, Karius

 

Yeah fuck that strategy, too many hits for my liking

[Keggy_Keagal]

In Howe I trust

[The College Dropout]

Mitchell will be replaced obviously. It will just be someone that can align somewhat with Howe.  Everything Mitchell said suggested a significant departure from how things were. And Howe didn’t have total control of that either. 

[Dr Jinx]

Howe has never wanted a director of football. He just needs a head of recruitment to get players he wants in. He’s starting to build something here now that doesn’t require someone overseeing him.

 

In fairness to Ashworth, in that aspect he was pretty good, but that ship has sailed. Never go backwards.

 

Recruit from within unless they have a gem lined up. I suspect the new CEO will be a heavyweight.

[Oregon_Geordie]

No top-level club these days has one person calling all the shots. I agree the manager should have the final say. But the days of a manager doing everything is well and truly gone.
That's two SD gone in two years. If Howe was to leave and take the England job next year with his entire backroom staff, we're back to square one with no infrastructure of plan in place.

Hard to have a view on PM but it's no coincidence that our targets always range in such extremes from unknown french and brazilians to english players like Trafford and DCL. 

Maybe the Wilson talk was the final straw - who knows! Interested to see what happens next, I totally trust EH on the first team, but we still need to build the club from the bottom up.

[Weezertron]

9 minutes ago, 54 said:

Howes way of doing things:

 

Absolute Hits: Trippier, Bruno, Burn, Botman, Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Hall, Livramento, Pope, Tonali

 

Provided Value in some way: Wood, Targett, Minteh, Kelly.

 

Too Early to Tell: Osula.

 

Miss: Vlach, Ashby, Karius

 

Yeah fuck that strategy, too many hits for my liking

 

I'm fine with this if it's sustainable i.e. not being pressured to sell to prevent a pts deduction. 

 

You need a money man in there I think.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Weezertron said:

 

I'm fine with this if it's sustainable i.e. not being pressured to sell to prevent a pts deduction. 

 

You need a money man in there I think.

Or we need to do better at getting income from other avenues.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Mitchell will be replaced obviously. It will just be someone that can align somewhat with Howe.  Everything Mitchell said suggested a significant departure from how things were. And Howe didn’t have total control of that either. 

I don’t think there is necessarily a lack of alignment. Howe seems to fully accept our PSR position and he’s always been good at coaching and improving non-star players. So where would the lack of alignment be? 
 

Like we’ve discussed on here loads of times, most of the chat around Howe’s need for control is absolutely nonsense and completely made up.  

[Jackie Broon]

I trust Howe to be the top of the tree, I think the director of football role is more important when the manager's position is more transient.

[David Edgar]

Well, my work here is done.

 

What do you mean "Your work is done"? You didn't do anything?

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by David Edgar

[Joe1984]

13 minutes ago, 54 said:

Howes way of doing things:

 

Absolute Hits: Trippier, Bruno, Burn, Botman, Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Hall, Livramento, Pope, Tonali

 

Provided Value in some way: Wood, Targett, Minteh, Kelly.

 

Too Early to Tell: Osula.

 

Miss: Vlach, Ashby, Karius

 

Yeah fuck that strategy, too many hits for my liking

Where's Kuol? 🤣

[Weezertron]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Or we need to do better at getting income from other avenues.

 

Both are true.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said:

Howe has never wanted a director of football. He just needs a head of recruitment to get players he wants in. He’s starting to build something here now that doesn’t require someone overseeing him.

 

In fairness to Ashworth, in that aspect he was pretty good, but that ship has sailed. Never go backwards.

 

Recruit from within unless they have a gem lined up. I suspect the new CEO will be a heavyweight.

I think there should be someone to provide healthy tension to Howe.  And so to spread some of the liability and influence.  He had that with Staveley and Ashworth but seems like Staveley didn’t control the numbers well enough.   
 

 

For better and for worse Staveley ran the club and had the keys to the fortune. Along with Nickson, Ashworth and Howe they identified players and ultimately she has final say. We miss that conduit between the owners and management.  I don’t think Eales ever had enough influence over PIF and he was misaligned with the old regime.  
 

The old regime had its issues. They didn’t agree on Joelinton’s contract.  But I think th we tensions were necessary. 

[Sima]

The turbulence at the top end of the club and a lack of movement on key infrastructure is a concern imo.

 

Fair play to Eddie for keeping it together beyond that point.  Big summer needed.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Sima

[54]

7 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

Where's Kuol? 🤣

I completely forgot he existed, add him to the miss pile

[nufcjmc]

6 minutes ago, Sima said:

The turbulence at the top end of the club and a lack of movement on key infrastructure is a concern imo.

 

Fair play to Eddie for keeping it together beyond that point.  Big summer needed.

 

 

 

Aye big summer to potentially things jump forward at pace stadium, training ground new location, sponsor of training ground  sponsor of training kit , new ceo, new technical director, Isak entering contract negotiations? Contract renewals for players and players to sell I hope some of this is road mapped out regardless of soon to be missing staff in key positions. 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by nufcjmc