Paul Mitchell

[Skeletor]

So if we can't spend money, why bring in Paul Mitchell in the summer? What's his job if he's not signing or selling any players?

[duo]

We need to add some quality in Jan to stand a chance of 5th

[Elliottman]

1 minute ago, Skeletor said:

So if we can't spend money, why bring in Paul Mitchell in the summer? What's his job if he's not signing or selling any players?

He’s got loads of jobs, go back and read the content from when he signed. 

[Displayname]

8 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

Sorry, you think the best approach going forward would be to put us in the same position as last year where we were desperately trying to fire sale our players before 30 June?

 

I’m glad you’re not in charge.

 

When we are/were in a fantastic position to challenge for CL then yes. A £50m offensive signing could have meant the difference and we would only have to make an extra profit of around £10m in the summer. 

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

Sorry, you think the best approach going forward would be to put us in the same position as last year where we were desperately trying to fire sale our players before 30 June?

 

I’m glad you’re not in charge.

 

 

The club would fold in a year.

 

 

 

[KaKa]

14 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

He’s got loads of jobs, go back and read the content from when he signed. 

 

Honestly man, words fail me. It's just so embarrassing.

[Kanj]

I don’t pretend to know the inner workings of the club but Paul is in charge of recruitment and scouting, he’s going to need to convince Eddie and the rest of the board why certain decisions need to be made, that is his fundamental job. As is the club’s commercial department in upping revenue streams, and PIF ownership on the board also need to use whichever loop hole or creative way to maximize this thing. We are literally on the cusp of being a consistent force but have had to rely on the apparent “not fit for purpose” lads playing out of their skin with no true first 11 upgrades in 3 windows. That is truly the issue over anything else. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 19:04 by Kanj

[Ben]

He'll probably sell Isak to Arsenal tomorrow just round this shit weekend off

[KaKa]

Some of you can't even endure some short term pain to better position the club for longer term success. 

 

All while the team is sat in 5th place and just six points off of 2nd place.

 

What a disgrace man.

 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, KaKa said:

Some of you can't even endure some short term pain to better position the club for longer term success. 

 

All while the team is sat in 5th place and just six points off of 2nd place.

 

What a disgrace man.

 

Think people are just taking their PSR frustrations out on the easiest choice tbh.

[TheBrownBottle]

To be fair, if there is anyone it’s worth beating up it’s the one with his hands tied behind his back …

[duo]

Did Michell sign Cunha for RB Leipzig?

[NE28]

1 hour ago, jonny1403 said:

Sorry, you think the best approach going forward would be to put us in the same position as last year where we were desperately trying to fire sale our players before 30 June?

 

I’m glad you’re not in charge.

 

With the hindsight of seeing how bent over and fucked we were in the Anderson/Vlachodimos deal it’s crazy that people want us to put ourselves in that position again. Really does make you wonder what the fuck was going on with the Guehi stuff all summer though. Buying him just to sell Isak/Bruno/Tonali/Gordon would’ve been crazy imo

[SUPERTOON]

Don’t think we can lay much if any blame at his door. This summer is massive though. 

[TBG]

Miggy and Kelly both moved on in the same window? Take a bow son.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

To be fair, if there is anyone it’s worth beating up it’s the one with his hands tied behind his back …

 

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

Hail Satan!

[Ben]

Doing a cracking job of weakening the squad, poor Eddie.

[Theregulars]

Fair play on the Kelly sale 

[Erikse]

5 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Selling a purple would feel like the project has failed.  

 

If we sell a purple, it would probably be for twice the buying price. Most of our purples are worth significantly more than what we bought them for, so don't think it's a failure. We only talk about it in a dramatic sense because the player we're selling turned out to be a fantastic signing, which we are then letting go of (but for big money). If Isak turned out to be kinda meh, but we somehow got most our money back for him. Would it then feel like the project was failing by selling him? No? But in this case we're getting nearly £100m less for him than what we would be getting now if he was sold now.

 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by Erikse

[Teslact]

If PSR is limiting his work, is there a grant we can apply for?

[Ben]

With our paper thin squad and 7 first teamers out of contract in the summer, Mitchell has his work cut out in the summer.

 

I can't even imagine what our purples will do if we don't qualify for Europe.

No wonder he wants an assistant. 

[Jewel]

Fact is everyone in that squad barring Isak, Bruno, Tonali, Gordon and Botman should be available for sale at the right price. And even those 5 can’t be untouchable if an insane offer comes in.

 

It’s then Mitchell’s responsibility to source adequate replacements within whatever budget he is given. That’s his job. If he can’t do it then he needs to be replaced with someone who can.

 

We are gonna have to wheel and deal like our lives depend on it. Feels like PSR has shackled us more than any other club.

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Jewel

[TheBrownBottle]

48 minutes ago, Jewel said:

Fact is everyone in that squad barring Isak, Bruno, Tonali, Gordon and Botman should be available for sale at the right price. And even those 5 can’t be untouchable if an insane offer comes in.

 

It’s then Mitchell’s responsibility to source adequate replacements within whatever budget he is given. That’s his job. If he can’t do it then he needs to be replaced with someone who can.

 

We are gonna have to wheel and deal like our lives depend on it. Feels like PSR has shackled us more than any other club.

 

 

 

The rules are the same for all clubs - the issue is still that we spaffed our load over a few windows and it’s eaten up the budget.  We didn’t sell when the iron was hot and old left players on the books, running their resale value down.  We adopted a model of signing younger, expensive talent rather than experience - a strategy built on a ‘sell for profit’ philosophy - and haven’t sold any of them; while at the same time they take time to ‘peak’.  Our revenues haven’t grown at a rate which creates additional financial ‘headroom’.  So now we’re stuck.  None of this lies at Mitchell’s door - it is the result of decisions made before he entered the building (including by Howe). 

 

The club needs to actually sell some of the ‘first wave’ of talents signed by the new ownership while they still attract significant fees - and the support needs to put on big boy pants when some of these players are sold.  Every club in the world - including the very richest - has to sell players.

 

I suspect that this summer will see one or two of the Howe-era ‘big’ signings go - CL qualification or not.  That would not be a sign of anything other than the way football currently works.  The squad left from the Ashley era had a handful of players who could have brought in substantial fees - and Howe improved some of them in the first year or so and they could have commanded even better fees.  Wilson, ASM, Joelinton, Willock, Almiron - all of these potentially could have been sold for more than they have gone for, or more than they would fetch now.  We didn’t, so here we are.

 

Mitchell needs a full summer window to be judged on ins / outs.  The club needs to be a lot more ruthless than it has been - the sale of Kelly to Juve gives me hope.  Previously I suspect any bid of that size would have been rejected and he’d have sputtered along as a poor backup, with lots of ‘he needs time’ or ‘he’s good in the dressing room’ patter to justify it.

 

The club have bought well under the new ownership - I’d have confidence that the transfer budget and wages freed up would be recycled well. 

[Stottie]

I don't disagree with the above, but Liverpool got 50M for an obviously finished Fabinho and Henderson. They were not moved on at planned-in-advance timing for optimal cost-benefit. They just happened to be surplus to requirements at a time when a brand new fully cashed-up league popped up out of nowhere. City and Chelsea have similarly benefitted for generally failing players like Cancelo and Mendy the goalie. Duran and Diaby weren't failures, far from it, but Villa got very good money for them.

 

My point here is that other Premier clubs have benefitted from a source of good fortune that does not appear available to us. The money they get benefits those clubs, and also makes them look like they are better run than they actually are.