Cf Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Kid Icarus said: You're basically making the point I am. Spain weren't that good, we should have been better. One thing I will say in our defence is we do a good job of making other teams look not good. Whilst looking crap ourselves of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: Understand it's raw for people but think Southgate is getting too much flack there. Made the perfect subs to get us back into the game, but then definitely sat back which has been our issue all tournament. Definitely time for a fresh start He is at fault. Didn't learn anything about the team all tournament and reacted to everything hoping for individual magic, how can he start Kane when he's been awful. We lost because we sat back again and just started hoofing the ball back to Spain, which Southgate didn't change anything about. He's bottled a WC semi, Euro Final and was shit tonight as well. The criticism is right where it deserves to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ed Vinegar said: At the end of the day, in normal time in the knockout stages we were ahead for like 3 minutes. It was always going to be a struggle in the final, but there's a big what-if over what might have happened if we'd tried to be positive after the equaliser when they were a bit rattled. That was your moment to win. I know Southgate's a coward but today I thought he would smell blood and push forward after the 1-1. Edited July 14 by TenkoDaLuz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I think we played good football for perhaps 45 minutes the entire tournament tbh. The final played out exactly how I expected it to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Got the starting line up wrong as he has in every game so far. Hence why we've gone behind in every game in the knockout stages. Spot on - he makes the mountain we have to climb then he gets the credit when we climb it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, TenkoDaLuz said: That was your moment to win. I know Southgate's a coward but today I thought we would smell blood and push forward after the 1-1. It’s just not in his DNA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Curse of Harry Kane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, KaKa said: Had a heck of a tournament overall to be fair. Think in a team that uses the ball well and has control, he's much more well suited. Was really good today, surprisingly so. I thought he was great at Brighton. I think he's been terrible since and thought he was their weakness tonight until then. This feels unnatural, I hope you know what I mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Kane needs to retire from international football, we need to move on from him, watching him jog around for nearly an hour made my blood boil. Walker is finished at this level too, in fact none of the City lot particularly impressed. The better team won tonight and they deserved it but it still stings. We need a new manager and to start bleeding some new players in at international level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, alexf said: Walker is so arrogant with his pace. Always out of position and assumes he can get back until he can't and hen he costs goals like that. To blame for both for me. Unintelligent defending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Wonder if their king or head of FA will try to cop a feel during the presentation like that fella did when the lasses won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Bellingham had a great game tonight I thought. Retained the ball so well through their press Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Going to be livid when Kane fills his boots again next season in the Bundesliga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: He is at fault. Didn't learn anything about the team all tournament and reacted to everything hoping for individual magic, how can he start Kane when he's been awful. We lost because we sat back again and just started hoofing the ball back to Spain, which Southgate didn't change anything about. He's bottled a WC semi, Euro Final and was shit tonight as well. The criticism is right where it deserves to be. 👏 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The biggest problem for England is that Southgate makes you too cautious. And Kane should not have played, clearly was not in shape. Your centrebacks stay so deep that when you lose the ball there is no counter attack threat, but it also makes hard to press, so automatically you have to drop deep. And of top of that, he didn't get the best out of players. Foden, Bellingham, Kane all moving to occupy same areas of the pitch, and no threat behind. Watkins should have started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Ooh. Lovely fireworks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Glad it’s over, shit tournament Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Beren said: Conor Gallagher ffs An incredible number of minutes this tournament. The fact that he was meant to come on before they scored unreal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Perez in his trainers lol But 5 current and ex Newcastle players in a euro final. Wonder if there was any transfer clauses that we would get some money from lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Sad to say but yet again you can’t actually sack Southgate after this. It’s too idealistic to sack him based on performances when the results show we lost one game (the final) and even that was in the last minute. He’ll get the World Cup if he wants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, LiquidAK said: Bellingham had a great game tonight I thought. Retained the ball so well through their press Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I'd give it to Scott Parker, trophy friendly and would get the best out of Connor Gallagher55555555 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, LiquidAK said: Bellingham had a great game tonight I thought. Retained the ball so well through their press he had some good touches at times but was a passenger for the most part imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, Andy said: This Spain team would definitely have lost to the teams you listed, but those three teams would have won this tournament without a single glove being laid on them. Over the course of this tournament though, Spain have definitely deserved to win for me. They've played the best football, won every match without needing penalties, and swept aside all the other favourites on their way. They are a poor team relative to some other winners, but still the best "team" in this competition. I think you get where I'm coming from though. England massively played within themselves and got to the final, got me to the point of thinking they should win it then didn't, then didn't. They're proper teases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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