GeordieToon Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Parish is desperate for a bidding war ever since Olise walked for less than they wanted, Fuck Parish wait till January and offer 25m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymac1966 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Buy one of the Palace replacement targets for 12m as reported? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Daily Mail & Guardian: Crystal Palace has REJECTED Newcastle's third bid for Marc Guehi, thought to be around £55m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Aye, rejected https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/aug/13/newcastle-united-crystal-palace-football-marc-guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Time to walk away from this one imo. Schar should be good for another season so we can either defer this signing until next summer or go for a younger more affordable prospect kind who can be back up for Schar for this season ala Tino and Hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Get Chalobah and Madueke instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Will pass on Chalobah like, he’s pretty average and would be a squad player at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Ah well would’ve been a nice signing this one. I feel quite relaxed about this now but just a bit concerned about the lack of depth behind Schar. Who knows maybe this can be rekindled and it’s still all posturing from both sides or we can hopefully get another option in then move for that RW spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Will pass on Chalobah like, he’s pretty average and would be a squad player at best. And that’s what we need. Either way, in next 12-24 months, we will need to have two RCBs in. No reason Chalobah and a new one signed next summer, can’t be them. With Botman / Kelly the LCB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Would have been nice to sign him but I think this will be funny / interesting to watch play out as he’s reportedly only on around £50k per week and I hope he refuses to sign a new deal. Palace either then lose a lot of cash as I can’t see anybody matching their valuation so they sell him much cheaper or keep him until he goes on a free. The last option could have a knock on effect on signing players in the future as I truly believe as a player if a club like say Brighton comes in for you it has to be comforting knowing they won’t stand in your way if you want to go and the right offer comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Just now, Sibierski said: And that’s what we need. Either way, in next 12-24 months, we will need to have two RCBs in. No reason Chalobah and a new one signed next summer, can’t be them. With Botman / Kelly the LCB. Because it’s poor squad planning, Chalobah got a new contract 2 years ago; he’s on proper premier league money and given how he would only be a squad player you’d be paying over a 100k a week for what is a back up. Again we have FFP constraints and thus average players on high wages needing fees should be avoided imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I’m not sure he won’t sign a new deal at Palace tbh. Increase in wage and a release clause will happen if he stays beyond this window imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I’m not sure he won’t sign a new deal at Palace tbh. Increase in wage and a release clause will happen if he stays beyond this window imo. Good compromise for both him and Palace in this scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I’m not sure he won’t sign a new deal at Palace tbh. Increase in wage and a release clause will happen if he stays beyond this window imo. Would he agree to a £70m release clause because that’s what they’ll want? I think his head may have been turned now with our bids and if you believe the press then if he was available cheaper / free Liverpool absolutely want him as well. Edited August 14 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Shame, onto the next target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I think we should just walk away now and not just give that wanker Parish what he wants with yet another increased bid. Go to Europe and find someone decent for about 40m or so and use the other 20m towards a right winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Get Thiaw, save the 20m. As well as Madueke I’d like to sign Vitor Roque as think Howe can transform him and would be good to be the Wilson replacement next year. Also RW cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 13 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Would he agree to a £70m release clause because that’s what they’ll want? I think his head may have been turned now with our bids and if you believe the press then if he was available cheaper / free Liverpool absolutely want him as well. No idea, they did it with Olise last summer though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 If the player wants the move I'm not sure why he'd sign a new contract with a release clause higher than what anyone is actually willing to pay for him. Palace finished strongly last season so it's possible he'll have a decent season. It's just as likely though he'll be just one defender in a mid table team who isn't riding off the back of England exposure. His value will just naturally deterioate a bit and that's without even considering his dwindling contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 I understand trying to hold out for what you think a player is worth fwiw. But equally it's true that a player is ultimately worth what someone else is willing to pay. And it's not like people are queueing up for his signature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 minute ago, Cf said: If the player wants the move I'm not sure why he'd sign a new contract with a release clause higher than what anyone is actually willing to pay for him. Palace finished strongly last season so it's possible he'll have a decent season. It's just as likely though he'll be just one defender in a mid table team who isn't riding off the back of England exposure. His value will just naturally deterioate a bit and that's without even considering his dwindling contract. I wouldn’t imagine the clause to be much higher than our current offer, it’s more a deal which protects palace from his contract expiring whilst rewarding Guehi with a higher salary and a guaranteed exit at a set fee. This will work well for all parties particularly once the window closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I wouldn’t imagine the clause to be much higher than our current offer, it’s more a deal which protects palace from his contract expiring whilst rewarding Guehi with a higher salary and a guaranteed exit at a set fee. This will work well for all parties particularly once the window closes. But if no one is willing to pay palace more than what we are currently it could lock him into palace for however many years. If he wants away they'd have to offer him very favourable terms to mitigate that. If Bellingham doesn't score that last second overhead kick his asking price is probably £10m less. His current price is somewhat artificially inflated by having a few good games for a defensively setup England side. Put a £75m release clause into his contract and he could easily never leave. Not saying it won't happen. But if a player actually wants to move the new contract isn't necessarily win-win for both parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Should have been in for todibo instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 7 minutes ago, Cf said: But if no one is willing to pay palace more than what we are currently it could lock him into palace for however many years. If he wants away they'd have to offer him very favourable terms to mitigate that. If Bellingham doesn't score that last second overhead kick his asking price is probably £10m less. His current price is somewhat artificially inflated by having a few good games for a defensively setup England side. Put a £75m release clause into his contract and he could easily never leave. Not saying it won't happen. But if a player actually wants to move the new contract isn't necessarily win-win for both parties. We are being opportunistic right, as usual ultimately everyone is stocked at centre half for now and I’m guessing this is what Palace are banking on. In 12 months time the market shifts maybe Liverpool need a CB maybe city do? Again, I don’t think the clause would be 75m I reckon around 60m. the goal of the clause wouldn’t be to keep him against his will, it would be to protect palace from the risk of losing him on the cheap and reward the player with a nice wage bump. Usually such situations arise because a player doesn’t want his club to take a haircut but wants to leave, everything seems to suggest he’s a good lad and a good pro so him doing this kind of thing makes sense to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: because a player doesn’t want his club to take a haircut The one time this is relevant tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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