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TK-421

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Just now, andycap said:

Paying it up front I'm assuming is worse than staggered payments spread out. 


I'd assume it just eats straight into your cashflow, and loads of clubs selling might prefer to spread payments (steady ongoing income). But its what Ashely used to do wasn't it? Pay in buying fees in one, to hopefuully get a better deal for a cash lumper, and then accepted payments when selling our players on the drip?

But whichever way you pay, I think it goes in the accounts towards FFP/PSR in same way (cost spread over contract length)?

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Hudson

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5 hours ago, Away Toon said:

Well where to start.  Didn't start Tino and Hall when both Trippier and Burn were throwing points away like confetti. Bought Tonali and then couldn't play him for most of the season. Ran the players into the ground leading to an unprecedented injury crisis.  Still relied on Wilson to back up Isac.  Bought Barnes who we didn't need. Started Miggy at RW. No plan B on the pitch to mitigate the fact that we were unable to play our normal high press aggressive football.  We wouldn't have won the league but we should have qualified for Europe. 

So here I go with a few kick backs on your points, will get the rest later. Just didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you. 😂

 

How do you know that Tino and Hall were both ready to go into the first team ?  Yeah Tripps and Burn had a few stinking games all pro players do. It’s called being human, and was mainly down to workload and fatigue. 
Remember last season, playing the toughest teams in Europe and being robbed of the knockouts places.  Those players gave the hearts last season.


I’m a forgiving kind guy, so all in I’m letting that slide. Plus I manage a very tight team and I know errors happen when the workload goes up, I can swap them out but would I ? No because the replacements would be worse and less capable and there would be more errors.
 

The Tonali issue was a cluster fuck that no doubt cost us a few points, but he might have had a shit start to his time here and cost us points the other way as-well. Remember him and Bruno looked a bit flakey before the ban. 

Did it cost us Europe very highly unlikely. 


Maybe if some of the wrong ref and Var things went our way we would be in Europe ?  That had just as much effect on our league position. Cost us a point at least in the Manu Game. It gave Chelsea an extra 2  points over the season. Those 2 things alone did cost us Europe this season. 

 

Rewriting history on the injury crisis, that all started with freak injury’s and snowballed due to the size of our squad and not having the players in it that could do a job replacing the players with niggles, pushing the tiny squad to its limits with the games we had and the cup teams we drew. 
 

Yeah Howie was slow with subs on the main for the season ,but look at what the options when’re Matt Bloody Richie.

 

Personally Europe last season as nice and needed as it was, was wrong for our development. We didn’t have the squad for it.  As we will see with Villa this season and Tottenham.

Also for me Last season was Amazing and very little of the causes of our problems were caused by the club. Most where outside forces you cannot plan or mitigate for. Not considering the power plays from the cartel to hold us back.

 

A fourth place finish and sixth in two season, after 14 years of Failure by Ashley and all attached to him is Amazing. 
 

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nufcnick

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36 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Genuinely don’t understand how we can afford more than £65m unless we know we’re selling a big name next summer.

Might be because you have no idea of the clubs true finances and what deals are in the pipeline 

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Keegans Export

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It's interesting that all the reports at our end are hinting at something more than "Offer made, then rejected" and that the leaks are all coming from their end.

 

Could it be that this is actually a pretty standard negotiation and isn't actually playing out as is being reported?

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7 minutes ago, SAK said:

Call Parish’s bluff, don’t formerly retract the bid, continue discussions, sign another defender, tell him to go fuck himself.

 

I'm with this. Leave the bid in, while working furiously to try and sign someone else and fucking them over.

 

Mind, it has to be said that Guehi's agent could give Parish a phone call and say that he wants to move in no uncertain terms. Guehi might lose out on some money but then he has a choice to make. 

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16 minutes ago, Hudson said:

So here I go with a few kick backs on your points, will get the rest later. Just didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you. 😂

 

How do you know that Tino and Hall were both ready to go into the first team ?  Yeah Tripps and Burn had a few stinking games all pro players do. It’s called being human, and was mainly down to workload and fatigue. 
Remember last season, playing the toughest teams in Europe and being robbed of the knockouts places.  Those players gave the hearts last season.


I’m a forgiving kind guy, so all in I’m letting that slide. Plus I manage a very tight team and I know errors happen when the workload goes up, I can swap them out but would I ? No because the replacements would be worse and less capable and there would be more errors.
 

The Tonali issue was a cluster fuck that no doubt cost us a few points, but he might have had a shit start to his time here and cost us points the other way as-well. Remember him and Bruno looked a bit flakey before the ban. 

Did it cost us Europe very highly unlikely. 


Maybe if some of the wrong ref and Var things went our way we would be in Europe ?  That had just as much effect on our league position. Cost us a point at least in the Manu Game. It gave Chelsea an extra 2  points over the season. Those 2 things alone did cost us Europe this season. 

 

Rewriting history on the injury crisis, that all started with freak injury’s and snowballed due to the size of our squad and not having the players in it that could do a job replacing the players with niggles, pushing the tiny squad to its limits with the games we had and the cup teams we drew. 
 

Yeah Howie was slow with subs on the main for the season ,but look at what the options when’re Matt Bloody Richie.

 

Personally Europe last season as nice and needed as it was, was wrong for our development. We didn’t have the squad for it.  As we will see with Villa this season and Tottenham.

Also for me Last season was Amazing and very little of the causes of our problems were caused by the club. Most where outside forces you cannot plan or mitigate for. Not considering the power plays from the cartel to hold us back.

 

A fourth place finish and sixth in two season, after 14 years of Failure by Ashley and all attached to him is Amazing. 
 

He won't listen to logic like this. Not when he blames the manager for Tonali's gambling addiction, and when he clearly has the inside track on every player's day-to-day fitness...

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What if the situation right now isn't as cut and dry as we think. Perhaps the price is acceptable but the way it's paid is not? If it's 60+5, maybe they just want the full £65M upfront. Fair enough in some ways.

 

Seeing the reports they now want £70M seem a bit off to me.  

 

A huge waste of everyone's time if this doesn't happen. Need to act quick if we're moving on to another target. The downside of that is the next target knows he was never the guy the club wanted.

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4 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

What if the situation right now isn't as cut and dry as we think. Perhaps the price is acceptable but the way it's paid is not? If it's 60+5, maybe they just want the full £65M upfront. Fair enough in some ways.

 

Seeing the reports they now want £70M seem a bit off to me.  

 

A huge waste of everyone's time if this doesn't happen. Need to act quick if we're moving on to another target. The downside of that is the next target knows he was never the guy the club wanted.

We also don’t know what the size of the ‘add-one’ are, nor the terms of them.  What if it is £10m add-ons based on Guehi winning the CL and PL with us?  I wouldn’t take that bet if I was Palace.

 

We’re being made to look a bit daft here to me.  It is clear that Palace have their value and aren’t going to budge.  It feels like they’re doing the Bernie Mac negotiation in ‘Bad Santa’ - and we’re doing no better in the Tony Cox role
 

 

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