Marc Guehi

[The Prophet]

 

[gbandit]

7 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

Would people rather we sign Guehi or Branthwaite? 

Branthwaite

[Mike]

Unless he's THAT good, it's got to be time to move on.

[The Prophet]

 

[The Prophet]

If we're still at the table, we're obviously still getting encouragement. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

So he wants to come then. Such a stupid saga. 

[jack j]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

He's such a pillock these days.

These days? He's always been a fucking drip

[HayDen Traces]

We're £5m away from making this happen. We've come this far now

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It’s not off, so it’s on. That’s binary. 

[Bunk Moreland]

1 minute ago, HayDen Traces said:

We're £5m away from making this happen. We've come this far now

 

Might even just be a case of offering £60m up front with no add-on structure

[alexf]

If we do walk away. The leaked bids have essentially given away what money we have available to spend to everyone else.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It’s not off, so it’s on. That’s binary. 

OFF—Requires a change of mind—ON

[The Prophet]

Clearly we really rate the lad. That third bid is mad.

[Zero]

They are asking 70m pounds + add ons

 

As I said this is fuckin insane

[Unbelievable]

16 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Fuck 'em, let's move on to the next target on the list. Guehi is not worth what they want for him.

[Kimbo]

Move on, it’s getting silly. If we really have our hearts set on him then maybe look for an older stop gap or a loan, then come back next year when he’ll be cheaper.

[The Prophet]

Just now, Kimbo said:

Move on, it’s getting silly. If we really have our hearts set on him then maybe look for an older stop gap or a loan, then come back next year when he’ll be cheaper.

 

Potentially more competition mind.

[Kimbo]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Potentially more competition mind.

Probably. Tbh I would go shop abroad, maybe go for Lacroix or something. What we can’t do is spend the rest of the summer playing Parish’s game.

[The Prophet]

Just now, Kimbo said:

Probably. Tbh I would go shop abroad, maybe go for Lacroix or something. What we can’t do is spend the rest of the summer playing Parish’s game.

 

Aye. I think the Anderson situation means this won't drag on too much longer. Hopefully enough cash left over to secure a winger too.

[Jackie Broon]

5 minutes ago, Zero said:

They are asking 70m pounds + add ons

 

As I said this is fuckin insane

 

But that's the price of going after an England intranational with their prime years ahead of them off the back of a successful tournament. It's always going to be silly money in that circumstance.

[The Prophet]

They probably want £65 million to cushion the blow of Chelsea's sell on clause. Gives them a profit of £52 million.

[80]

3 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

I think it's becoming harder and harder to establish a useful benchmark.

 

Between inflation and PSR, transfer fees are all over the place, and the scope of 'value' is so much wider now. When £20-30million was the very upper limit to transfer fees, it was easy to differentiate a £3m player from an £8m player or a £10m player from a £15m player. But these days - when the baseline is always in the tens of millions - a difference of five is almost impossible to interpret.

 

Previous generations to me would probably say the same about the front end of my example, because transfer fees have consistently inflated over the decades. But I do wonder if it's ever been quite this difficult to define talent by a transfer fee. 

 

If we can afford to pay £70m for him and the bosses consider it to be worth it, then my instinct is to back that call; however, I'd be concerned about us being held to ransom. 

Without getting too PSR-y, basically the value of a pound coin is meaning different things to different clubs more than ever before. Which is making player pricing much more erratic e.g. Gordon was worth eight figures less on June 30th than he was on July 1st. We knew that and Liverpool knew that. It's not just that one quality of player is worth 30% less than another quality of player, it's that individual players are going up and down, occasionally even day to day.

 

Meanwhile there's now more sense in us selling Almiron for £10m (I'm not saying it's a slam dunk case) even if that's seen as cheap, because we're a cash rich, PSR poor club and that sale immediately unlocks a £35m transfer kitty for a deal we may have lined up. But that would be less true for a cash poor club, who would need to value him more highly because they need to fund other signings somehow.

 

PSR, combined with transfer windows, is incentivising many clubs into periodically behaving like Leeds United in crisis mode, before the reset button gets hit and normality resumes. The only real alternative is to have a ridiculously higher income than your peers, or not get as close to maxing out your PSR budget as possible because you don't mind giving your competitors who do an advantage.

 

So it's near enough impossible to talk in traditional ways about how much a player is worth in a steady sense, because one month their club might be in liquidation mode, and the next they might be rich. It's more like buying fresh fish from the docks - lots of moving parts, and what's a good deal now can be a very bad deal a few hours later...

 

Oh look at that, I became too PSR-y.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2024 by 80

[Scoot]

3rd bid was rejected on Tuesday wasn't it? Sky are canny pathetic these days.

 

Either way, this is just boring now. Roll on Saturday when the actual football is back. What will be will be in the transfer market. Can't wait until its shut!

[GEFAFWISP]

4 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that's the price of going after an England intranational with their prime years ahead of them off the back of a successful tournament. It's always going to be silly money in that circumstance.

Which puts into question the validity of signing someone at peak value, inflated by coming off a decent Euros, with an English premium, and not having the deal done before first game of the season.

[Izakaya]

5 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

But that's the price of going after an England intranational with their prime years ahead of them off the back of a successful tournament. It's always going to be silly money in that circumstance.

£70m. Get fuckin real man 😂