Marc Guehi

[gbandit]

Dubravka and Jow being out were bigger factors than our defence last season 

[SteV]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

I find it hard to overlook the price personally, I know some will say it doesn’t matter and it’s not my money but ultimately we have to pay for this deal and it will have an impact on how much we have to spend elsewhere. 
 

65m is a really high price for us to pay for a centre back. 

It is, but it somehow feels more because every step of the negotiations has played out in public, so it’s created the perception that we’re stretching ourselves to meet (hopefully) whatever the final price is. 
 

If we didn’t know about all the bids/negotiations and we just heard ‘X price agreed’, I reckon we’d feel less concerned about it.

[KingArthur]

Guehi will be starting CB for 10 years. I don't think the price is that bad, if he keeps his level.

[Miggys First Goal]

For £65M, he better be the generational superstar that Parish claims he is. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Palace fan I know thinks it's inevitable he'll become our captain, providing he signs of course.

 

Bruno.

[The Prophet]

In theory at least. Tino, Guehi, Botman and Hall means we don't need to sign any first team defenders for a decent chunk of time.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, gbandit said:

Dubravka and Jow being out were bigger factors than our defence last season 

Dubravka was a nightmare, but the lack of anything resembling pace at centre half was a massive problem - I think a Botman/Guehi partnership is immediately one of the best in the division.  And we’re not getting anywhere if we’re shipping the number of goals we did last season.  The defence needed fixing. 

[Guest]

You can sign Boumsong for free, mate.

Ok, but how about £8m. Will you accept £8m for him?

I said ... wait, yeah, ok. Idiot. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Miggys First Goal said:

For £65M, he better be the generational superstar that Parish claims he is. 

 

Well he know he isn't, CBs don't generally become generational superstars. But he could still be a very good player for us. 

[The Prophet]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Bruno.

 

I don't think he meant straight away, but we do have a dressing room full of good eggs.

[Skeletor]

24 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

 

"Might"

 

:yaooffacliff:

[Bondedcrown]

3 minutes ago, JP said:

 

Good point re: goals.

 

Despite all the injuries and extra games last season we scored 85 league goals.

4th behind City (96), Arsenal (91) and Liverpool (86)

Conceding 62 was our problem..

 

Yet some people on here still don't get it?

[r0cafella]

Just now, SteV said:

It is, but it somehow feels more because every step of the negotiations has played out in public, so it’s created the perception that we’re stretching ourselves to meet (hopefully) whatever the final price is. 
 

If we didn’t know about all the bids/negotiations and we just heard ‘X price agreed’, I reckon we’d feel less concerned about it.

I hear you, but my alarm bells have been ringing since the moment these figures were mentioned which is a shame as he’s a good player. 
 

As mentioned before, the fee plus the wages will cost us around 20m per year, that’s a huge hole to fill. 
 

Idk man, it just feels we could use that money better at RW Schar is a much better Cb than Murphy or Miggy are a right wing. 
 

let me put into some hopium and say let’s get both a top class rw and Cb and not fall foul of psr haha

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, OCK said:

You can sign Boumsong for free, mate.

Ok, but how about £8m. Will you accept £8m for him?

I said ... wait, yeah, ok. Idiot. 

More Shepherd being a dodgy fucker than stupidity I suspect

[Joelinton7]

[KaKa]

5 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

I seem to be in a minority but if it’s a choice between Guehi and a RW I’d choose Guehi. 
 

Getting back to the mean defence of the champions league placing season is a must. We scored more than enough goals last season. Think people’s at times brutal disdain for Almiron is swaying opinions, but we aren’t linked with a game changing RW (I’d take Madueke but he’s no great shakes so far).

 

Guehi/Botman potentially sorts us for years and years to come.

 

Looking like we may get both, thankfully.

 

We absolutely need another centre back as the priority though, agreed.

 

However, I think having a right winger that can threaten more is going to have a much bigger impact than many realise.

 

It will give us so much more balance and take some pressure off Gordon on the left. If it can also allow us to have more attacking threat and sustain more attacks, that will also push teams back more, and in turn means less pressure on our defence too.

 

Things breaking down on that right side when Almiron and Longstaff featured together, sometimes led to dangerous counters attacks against us and more last ditch defending.

 

[TheBrownBottle]

A lot of people think we’re ‘overpaying’ - Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea have all paid this sort of money for a centre back at least once (sometimes significantly more).  £65m is not overpaying for a first choice England international centre back.  
 

[KaKa]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

A lot of people think we’re ‘overpaying’ - Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea have all paid this sort of money for a centre back at least once (sometimes significantly more).  £65m is not overpaying for a first choice England international centre back.  
 

 

Newcastle had fallen so far behind, we can't even imagine spending this kind of money on a defender.

[madras]

17 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

You can add me to that minority.  I think CB is more pressing than RW - though RW is the other obvious weak point. 

And me as Gordon can also play on the right (but I do think we'll get a RW as well). I think some of the desire to press for Guehi is the personality/character thing. Reading about him from various places....hes a leader, level headed, not a twat.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2024 by madras

[ExiledGeordie]

I don’t see an issue paying 65m for an England international which means you’re effectively sorted at CB for the next 5-6 years or whatever (particularly with Botman coming back at some point)

[Skeletor]

1 minute ago, madras said:

And me as Gordon can also play on the right (but I do think we'll get a RW as well). I think some of the desire to press for Guehi is the personality/character thing. Reading about him from various places....hes a leader, level headed, not a twat.

 

 

 

 

And probably now is the most opportunistic time when no-one else seems to be in for him.

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, madras said:

And me as Gordon can also play on the right (but I do think we'll get a RW as well). I think some of the desire to press for Guehi is the personality/character thing. Reading about him from various places....hes a leader, level headed, not a twat.

 

 

 

If we get Guehi and a RW we’re looking in seriously good nic 

[SUPERTOON]

16 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Palace fan I know thinks it's inevitable he'll become our captain, providing he signs of course.

Not whilst Bruno is here.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

Newcastle had fallen so far behind, we can't even imagine spending this kind of money on a defender.

I think that’s exactly it tbh.  This is the ‘going rate’.  And Ashley wouldn’t buy defenders - so we’ve got used to not stumping up big money.

 

In all honesty, I wish Keegan or Robson had spent big money on top centre backs - we’d have won trophies.  (Woodgate is the only one that came in during that period who was at that level).  A spine of Pope; Botman & Guehi; Bruno; Isak looks pretty damn good to me 

[Vaj]

I don't think there is a wrong answer as to which is needed more out of a CB and a RW, both are needed and there are solid arguments to be had for both.

 

My opinion has swayed from a RW being more important, but I think that is because there has not been an obvious player seemingly available that will really transform us on the RW. If we could have got Olise then RW would have been more important than CB for me because he would have been a mega signing. 

 

If we can only get someone like a Madueke, who could well be a very good signing, then getting Guehi and improving a leaky defence from last season then feels more important to me.