pubteam Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: If you want to be forgiving about any aspect of our performance then you can point to our two first choice CBs being out. I like Krafth and especially Burn - but combine them with Popey and you've got a triumvirate of doom in terms of building play. Throw in a scruffy Joelinton performance and forget it. We resorted to pointing long which was rarely better. We cant play the ball around the back line with that calamity of passing ability, it's a critical point and breaks up your play before you even get going. It also puts too much pressure on the fullbacks to bring the ball out or the midfielders receive the ball when already under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: If you want to be forgiving about any aspect of our performance then you can point to our two first choice CBs being out. I like Krafth and especially Burn - but combine them with Popey and you've got a triumvirate of doom in terms of building play. Throw in a scruffy Joelinton performance and you can forget it. We resorted to punting long which was rarely better. Yeah that's true - I said in watching we should put Joelinton higher on GKs and drop Isak in, then just go long and let it bounce off Joe or something then try and win the second ball, just to try and do something different. It's obviously a general trend in the game but the whole sticking to a way of trying to do something and lack of "be pragmatic and play the game in front of you" is something we could be better at. But the shithousery is somewhat back so one thing at a time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Decent start result wise. Get 3 points next Saturday and that's a strong start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 34 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: Watch Krafth shit himself when passed back to under mild pressure at around the 70th minute mark and see of you still agree. Yeah i still think a RW is needed more than a CB. We have Schar, Botman and Lascelles coming back with Kelly also being a CB. We have Almiron or Murphy at RW who are incredibly limited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Howe basically has admitted their goal should've stood. Fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Howe basically has admitted their goal should've stood. Fair play. Still loyal to Bournemouth, the treasonous clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 2 hours ago, Crimson Cardigan said: On the plus side this will quiet the “Barnes was a waste of money” stuff for a while. Is Gordon's head still turned? 😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: @WillDanceForChocolate has been a canny poster. Really no need to be dicks about it. Agreed - his post had no cry baby element about it and we’d feel the same way if the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 7 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Howe basically has admitted their goal should've stood. Fair play. I like that - gets a lot of brownie points in my book. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Still loyal to Bournemouth, the treasonous clown. He’s gonna be honest about it with it being Bournemouth, not only did he manage them for 11 years but he spent his entire youth career there and had over 270 appearances as a player for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Is Gordon's head still turned? 😄 Howe and Tindall can't stand Hughes, definitely wouldn't want a player to leave and go there. Edited August 25, 2024 by splinter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Pretty obvious if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Strange game. Thought both teams were really poor on the ball, don’t think the wind (or a dry looking pitch) aided on that front though. Thought our tactics until the Trippier/Barnes sub were bizarre which massively impeded us going forward likewise the constant short corners which kept leading to nothing especially when Neto isn’t the best, put him under some pressure. Wouldn't have said anyone had a better than 7/10 performance for us with Bruno probably being the pick as he, at least, looked to make things happen. The usual deficiencies, we’ve seen so many times, from us kept coming to the fore which made for a hugely frustrating game. The draw was probably a fair result in total albeit you’d be fewmin’ if that disallowed goal was the other round. Positively we are a point up on last season so you can’t grumble too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 34 minutes ago, Gawalls said: He’s gonna be honest about it with it being Bournemouth, not only did he manage them for 11 years but he spent his entire youth career there and had over 270 appearances as a player for them. So much for my feeble attempt at sarcasm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 I think the most frustrating thing about today was the lack of intensity. Obviously we struggled to do that last season due to the quantity of injuries and fixtures and we couldn't have got away with it after going down to 10 men last weekend but what happened today? We've had over a week off to rest and prepare and multiple options on the bench but we were so passive. A well organised press and winning the ball high up the field was a hallmark of the 4th place season, we looked impossible to handle on multiple occasions. What has happened to that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Just now, Keegans Export said: I think the most frustrating thing about today was the lack of intensity. Obviously we struggled to do that last season due to the quantity of injuries and fixtures and we couldn't have got away with it after going down to 10 men last weekend but what happened today? We've had over a week off to rest and prepare and multiple options on the bench but we were so passive. A well organised press and winning the ball high up the field was a hallmark of the 4th place season, we looked impossible to handle on multiple occasions. What has happened to that? We had these exact types of performances then too though. Second game that season was Brighton away and we were well beaten in general play while looking very leggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 36 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: So much for my feeble attempt at sarcasm. Fair play - I am a little slow sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 The 4-4-2 experiment was very strange and definitely didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 20 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: We had these exact types of performances then too though. Second game that season was Brighton away and we were well beaten in general play while looking very leggy. Aye but we looked brilliant in the first game against Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 26 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I think the most frustrating thing about today was the lack of intensity. Obviously we struggled to do that last season due to the quantity of injuries and fixtures and we couldn't have got away with it after going down to 10 men last weekend but what happened today? We've had over a week off to rest and prepare and multiple options on the bench but we were so passive. A well organised press and winning the ball high up the field was a hallmark of the 4th place season, we looked impossible to handle on multiple occasions. What has happened to that? I suspect today was tactical. Our back line today massively lacked pace, and if Bournemouth had successfully bypassed our press we’d have been hugely exposed with their front 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 We have to find a way of moving the ball quicker, at times would get to one of our players and Bournemouth had time to reorganise. We move it far too slow. Also our technical ability is shocking, misplaced passes, no mobility, struggling to know what to do with the ball. Bournemouth moved the ball well and worked space much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 Thought if we where going with a 442 we might of started osula up top with isak. So we had a target to hit when they hemmed us in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 (edited) 25 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: We have to find a way of moving the ball quicker, at times would get to one of our players and Bournemouth had time to reorganise. We move it far too slow. Also our technical ability is shocking, misplaced passes, no mobility, struggling to know what to do with the ball. Bournemouth moved the ball well and worked space much better Take Bruno and Schar out of the team and I’m not convinced we have that many technically gifted players capable of retaining possession, where blessed with running ability and physical players, but this stood out like a sore thumb in Europe, we simply can’t control games and that’s down to the profile of player we seem to want. Edited August 25, 2024 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 29 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Take Bruno and Schar out of the team and I’m not convinced we have that many technically gifted players capable of retaining possession, where blessed with running ability and physical players, but this stood out like a sore thumb in Europe, we simply can’t control games and that’s down to the profile of player we seem to want. Agree with that, they are the only 2 that have that ability. To be a top team we are going to need a mix of technical and physical. Hoping Tonali comes good and we can get some players in this week. A couple of tricky/technical midfield or attacking players would help. If they don't come in we have to play Gordon and Barnes every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 25, 2024 Share Posted August 25, 2024 4 hours ago, Tsunami said: I think we’ve forgotten what Willock brings to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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