Anthony Elanga: NUFC have bid of £45m rejected (Ornstein)

[Drewboy74]

5 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

He was generally causing hammock for defenders that season, especially in the second half of the season. Lightning quick, even with the ball at his feet. He doesn't seem to have the same explosiveness anymore. Achilles injuries can be a nightmare.

 

 

 

Aye such a shame. Needs to go for his own sake.

[toon25]

6 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

He was generally causing hammock for defenders that season, especially in the second half of the season. Lightning quick, even with the ball at his feet. He doesn't seem to have the same explosiveness anymore. Achilles injuries can be a nightmare.

 

 

 

 

Proper left them hanging, like 

[kenlau88210]

Regarding Willock, i suspect quite a lot of us have forgotten how good he was in the 22-23 season when we finished 4th. He was consistently good and combined so well with Joelinton and also with Isak. He has great pace and ball carrying ability obviously, but also pretty decent technical ability, able to shield the ball very well in tight spaces. I know he has been struggling with fitness issues and understandably many of us want to upgrade him, but we will most likely have to shell out a fair chuck of our budget if we were to get a player of similar quality. 

 

If we do decide to replace him, hopefully we can get someone like Fernandes from Southampton.

[ponsaelius]

I don't think people have forgotten that TBF - but it was two years ago now.

 

He hasn't kicked on since and I dont personally he will ever become a top level player. What particularly worries me with him is that his game relies so much on trusting himself physically - but that he also keeps breaking down physically.

 

This might be the best time to get a decent fee for him from a London club - two years left and 26 in August. Personally I'd do it. I have no doubt there's a decent chance he'll do really well elsewhere too - it's just we need to keep re-cycling players at the fight time and developing the squad.

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by ponsaelius

[Keegans Export]

9 minutes ago, kenlau88210 said:

Regarding Willock, i suspect quite a lot of us have forgotten how good he was in the 22-23 season when we finished 4th. He was consistently good and combined so well with Joelinton and also with Isak. He has great pace and ball carrying ability obviously, but also pretty decent technical ability, able to shield the ball very well in tight spaces. I know he has been struggling with fitness issues and understandably many of us want to upgrade him, but we will most likely have to shell out a fair chuck of our budget if we were to get a player of similar quality. 

 

If we do decide to replace him, hopefully we can get someone like Fernandes from Southampton.

Callum Wilson was great that season too, but neither of them have shown anything like that sort of level in the past year. 

[kenlau88210]

Fair arguments, especially considering only 2 years left in his contract. Hopefully someone willing to pay 25m for him and then we get someone with a higher ceiling

[Shadow Puppets]

I don’t know a great deal about Elanga other than glimpses of his ability on MOTD etc, but two things:

 

- we’ve wanted him in the last 3 windows so he’s obviously someone that Eddie sees a tonne of potential in.

 

- one of my best mates is a Forest fan who says his ceiling is incredibly high. On his day, his pace, dribbling and finishing is outstanding, apparently, but he’s a bit inconsistent. So if Eddie thinks he can get his consistency right, it could be a great signing.

[Erikse]

1 hour ago, toon25 said:

 

Proper left them hanging, like 

 

Havoc.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

43 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I don’t know a great deal about Elanga other than glimpses of his ability on MOTD etc, but two things:

 

- we’ve wanted him in the last 3 windows so he’s obviously someone that Eddie sees a tonne of potential in.

 

- one of my best mates is a Forest fan who says his ceiling is incredibly high. On his day, his pace, dribbling and finishing is outstanding, apparently, but he’s a bit inconsistent. So if Eddie thinks he can get his consistency right, it could be a great signing.

He's relatively young as well, forget how early he broke through at Man U. 

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

He's relatively young as well, forget how early he broke through at Man U. 

This is a fairly massive point, unlikely that his value drops significantly with us, more likely to go up unless we pay a ridiculous fee 

[black_n_white]

16 minutes ago, gbandit said:

This is a fairly massive point, unlikely that his value drops significantly with us, more likely to go up unless we pay a ridiculous fee 

Which we won’t. Around 50-55 million is the limit we seem to be bidding on players.

[gbandit]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Which we won’t. Around 50-55 million is the limit we seem to be bidding on players.

Does look that way, that seemed to be our cut off on Guehi despite noise of higher bids. I think we’d potentially go higher for a player like Guler but whether we could get a player like that is probably unlikely 

[sushimonster85]

16 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Which we won’t. Around 50-55 million is the limit we seem to be bidding on players.

 

I don't think they have a limit they will spend on any one player. I think we refuse to go above what we value a player at, still trying to train clubs that we won't be held to ransom for a Saudi tax. 

 

I think that 50/55m figure is more down to us knowing we need a few players and still having a limited budget 

[loki679]

8 hours ago, toon25 said:

 

Proper left them hanging, like 

 

Caught them napping.

[ExiledGeordie]

My only concern with the Elanga transfer and possibly the Pedro and Trafford deals is for them to turn into a Guehi situation where we’re only offering X and the selling club won’t budge. I hope we have some alternative options or are pretty sure we know what it’ll take to get these players if that’s who we want. 

[black_n_white]

5 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

My only concern with the Elanga transfer and possibly the Pedro and Trafford deals is for them to turn into a Guehi situation where we’re only offering X and the selling club won’t budge. I hope we have some alternative options or are pretty sure we know what it’ll take to get these players if that’s who we want. 

Burnley have to sell so will ultimately accept an offer close to what we are offering. I also expect Pedro to be accepted for close to 55-60 that’ll include add-ons etc. Elanga is the one that will drag on.

[LFEE]

I see Forest aren’t signing that winger now. 

[TRon]

4 hours ago, black_n_white said:

Burnley have to sell so will ultimately accept an offer close to what we are offering. I also expect Pedro to be accepted for close to 55-60 that’ll include add-ons etc. Elanga is the one that will drag on.

 

 

I've still not seen many credible alternatives to Elanga put forward. The alternatives like Semenyo and Kudus are being quoted at even higher prices, and for some reason I just don't see any overseas names which look like they'll fit Howe's blueprint. I doubt we would want to pay that sort of money for a player who might be at risk of adapting to the PL, so if we do go abroad it will probably be a younger player with potential, not one for the first team.  

[Bunk Moreland]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I've still not seen many credible alternatives to Elanga put forward. The alternatives like Semenyo and Kudus are being quoted at even higher prices, and for some reason I just don't see any overseas names which look like they'll fit Howe's blueprint. I doubt we would want to pay that sort of money for a player who might be at risk of adapting to the PL, so if we do go abroad it will probably be a younger player with potential, not one for the first team.  

Akliouche fits the general Howe blueprint in that he works very hard and intelligently off the ball, but imagine Monaco would be demanding in the same region of what Forest want for Elanga (£60-70m)

[TRon]

5 minutes ago, Bunk Moreland said:

Akliouche fits the general Howe blueprint in that he works very hard and intelligently off the ball, but imagine Monaco would be demanding in the same region of what Forest want for Elanga (£60-70m)

 

Haven't seen him tbh, don't really follow overseas football. Does he have the same physicality Elanga? 

 

I have seen some commentators rave about Harvey Elliott as an alternative but he's not got the pace or the strength that Elanga would bring. 

[Bunk Moreland]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

Haven't seen him tbh, don't really follow overseas football. Does he have the same physicality Elanga? 

 

I have seen some commentators rave about Harvey Elliott as an alternative but he's not got the pace or the strength that Elanga would bring. 

 

He's not as fast as Elanga but more technical and probably more creative overall. I don't think he'd have an issue adapting to the physicality of the PL but probably doesn't have the insane training routine of Elanga.

 

Agree on Elliott. Looks good for the U21s but in a four front season-long campaign I wouldn't want him as our main RW.

[Froggy]

13 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I've still not seen many credible alternatives to Elanga put forward. The alternatives like Semenyo and Kudus are being quoted at even higher prices, and for some reason I just don't see any overseas names which look like they'll fit Howe's blueprint. I doubt we would want to pay that sort of money for a player who might be at risk of adapting to the PL, so if we do go abroad it will probably be a younger player with potential, not one for the first team.  

 

Garnacho available for £50m. More G&A than Elanga last season and 3 years younger.

 

He's a great lad too. Top professional.

[Sibierski]

I’d happily take Garnacho. Think his ceiling is so high and it’s proper dumb from Man Utd to get rid.

 

 

Edited 20 minutes ago by Sibierski

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

I’d happily take Garnacho. Think his ceiling is so high and it’s proper dumb from Man Utd to get rid.

 

 

 

Howay man, his attitude is fucking awful and he’s a really selfish player 

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

I’d happily take Garnacho. Think his ceiling is so high and it’s proper dumb from Man Utd to get rid.

 

 

 

 

If he can put it all together he'll be a very good player.