Newcastle United 0-2 West Ham United (25/11/24)

[Kid Icarus]

13 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

It was a bit rich watching you boo Fabianski for taking his sweet time

Pfff, we wish.

 

Our shithousery began and ended about 2 years ago.

[Kanj]

Everyone does it and everyone boos it. Christ it’s not that serious. It’s a natural agro home fan reaction.  

[r0cafella]

Well that was disappointing. We are such an inconsistent confidence team at the minute. 

[Disco]

Not enough  faces in the world for that.

 

West Ham clearly absolutely shite but we fucked it to an unreal degree. Second half especially we were shit and got worse with every change to the point they were taking the piss, absolutely awful.

 

Wan Bisaka joining Lazaridis and Rowland in the utter dross stakes against us.

[Menace]

Talking about West Ham spending more dosh than us when they have been effectively shite all season is quite something.

 

Frustrated with whats been served up mostly this season, I don't think Howe is any closer to finding something that works. 13 goals scored going into December is really poor like.

[The Butcher]

Hardly slept all night and woke up still feewwminng. 

 

This fucking club

 

 

[Menace]

Christ. Looks even worse.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Menace said:

Christ. Looks even worse.

Wasn't Lloyd Kellys finest moment without doubt. 

[ExiledGeordie]

How does Murphy get on ahead of Almiron? Hes absolute dogshit 😂

[SUPERTOON]

5 hours ago, Disco said:

Not enough  faces in the world for that.

 

West Ham clearly absolutely shite but we fucked it to an unreal degree. Second half especially we were shit and got worse with every change to the point they were taking the piss, absolutely awful.

 

Wan Bisaka joining Lazaridis and Rowland in the utter dross stakes against us.

He’s scored 3 career goals, 2 have been against us at st James 

[Lush Vlad]

2 hours ago, The Butcher said:

Hardly slept all night and woke up still feewwminng. 

 

This fucking club

 

 

Same. 
 

Nothing still quite ruins my mood like a totally abject Toon performance and a loss. Slept like shit and our 6 month old decided to wake up 4-5 times as well. Feel like I’ve not been to bed. 
 

First half wasn’t really that bad save for that criminal defending off the corner. Just wasteful in good areas with our finishing, passing and crossing. Which has been a theme for quite a while. 
 

Second half was atrocious. 5 minutes of looking like we’d score. Then effectively game over after 53 minutes.
 

Subs and the change to 4-4-2 before that even. Absolutely killed us. Felt a bit desperate when prior to that. We had actually had a lot of control over the game and Bowen was largely anonymous first half. Then ran the show in the second and we were lucky to only lose 2-0. 

[Boey_Jarton]

1 hour ago, Menace said:

Christ. Looks even worse.

Baffling defending . Even if you can't win the header just stay tight and jump and it is very difficult for the attacking player. 

 

 

[Scoot]

I think this game has kind of made ne realise we're probably a mid table side unfortunately. We can be good but at the same time, we can be canny awful. 

 

Really starting to question the Tonali and Barnes signings now. Sound 90 million on the pair of them to sit on the bench whilst the team is crying out for players in other positions.

[duo]

Just seen hightlights

- defo pen for me was all over Wilson. 

[Stifler]

What infuriates me, is we have no one who can cross a ball. On the left we had mostly Hall just cutting back inside. On the right everyone just cut back inside, and ended up ending our attack, to start again.

Cross the fucking ball man, it’s no good making 5 passes on the wing, to bring it back to you defensive line.

 

This game also highlighted how ineffective Gordon is if teams sit deep. He needs that space in behind, otherwise he offers nothing.

 

How the fuck we are 3 years into the takeover and still haven’t signed anyone for RW is beyond me. Forget about CB’s for now, RW is our weakest position.

[Boey_Jarton]

5 minutes ago, duo said:

Just seen hightlights

- defo pen for me was all over Wilson. 

Compare it to the Dummett Vs Everton incident last season.

 

VAR chooses to intervene in the Dummett incident which makes no difference to the outcome whatsoever but doesn't get involved when the defender is on the wrong side and prevents Wilson having a tap in header.

 

Mind you, we were dreadful second half and ref was otherwise fine

 

[Lush Vlad]

11 minutes ago, Stifler said:

What infuriates me, is we have no one who can cross a ball. On the left we had mostly Hall just cutting back inside. On the right everyone just cut back inside, and ended up ending our attack, to start again.

Cross the fucking ball man, it’s no good making 5 passes on the wing, to bring it back to you defensive line.

 

This game also highlighted how ineffective Gordon is if teams sit deep. He needs that space in behind, otherwise he offers nothing.

 

How the fuck we are 3 years into the takeover and still haven’t signed anyone for RW is beyond me. Forget about CB’s for now, RW is our weakest position.

Modern football seems to be against crossing the ball. I think someone put stats up a while back showing we are one of the least frequent crossers since Howe has been here and all. 
 

That may have changed over time, of course. But we don’t seem like we cross it much or do it with any real success when we do. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

Modern football seems to be against crossing the ball. I think someone put stats up a while back showing we are one of the least frequent crossers since Howe has been here and all. 
 

That may have changed over time, of course. But we don’t seem like we cross it much or do it with any real success when we do. 

It is because very few attackers can actually beat centre halfs from crosses cutbacks obviously not counted. 

 

We'd be crossing it in to players who aren't suited to winning aerial battles, really low % football. 

[Stifler]

I mean, we did score a brilliant goal against Arsenal with 1 of the fewest crosses we have made.

Surely the odds of us scoring from a cross is higher than the odds of us playing pass in circles on the wings?

[Holloway]

Our attack is too predictable for me, everything coming from wide areas. Bruno when he's on it is the only one looking to thread a pass through the middle and that hasn't happened enough this campaign. The return of Botman will hopefully bring some improvement here

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, Stifler said:

I mean, we did score a brilliant goal against Arsenal with 1 of the fewest crosses we have made.

Surely the odds of us scoring from a cross is higher than the odds of us playing pass in circles on the wings?

One swallow doesn't make a summer. Who is Isak beating in air? 

 

Football has moved on from lump it up to a big man or get it into the mixer. Unless your West ham and your playing us

[Kid Icarus]

All the fine tooth comb soul searching we do after a defeat:

 

- Howe's getting it wrong

- Tonali should be starting

- Bruno's been crap since getting the armband

- Barnes was a waste of money

- Murphy put in the worst performance ever 

- We can't cross

- We need a #10

- Our midfield isn't balanced

- We don't create enough 

 

And somehow still barely anyone talking about how by hook or crook we do create chances only for Isak and especially Gordon to keep missing them. I don't get it, it's like we're pointing at every possible problem except the glaring one.

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[JEToon]

Our best chances came from crosses really.

 

If the Tino cross is a bit flatter it’s likely something similar to the Arsenal goal again

 

The Gordon miss comes as a result of a cross poorly dealt with 

 

We should have a penalty as a result of a cross.

 

Not sure it proves much of anything but football hasn’t moved on from getting it in the mixer. 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by JEToon

[Shak]

Surely it's natural for people to look for problems that we can address, though?

 

I'm not sure what you can do other than hope Isak starts putting them away. There's no other option to take his place, realistically.

 

Definite argument to be made that Barnes could start ahead of Gordon given how wasteful the latter has been in front of goal this season.

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

All the fine tooth comb soul searching we do after a defeat:

 

- Howe's getting it wrong

- Tonali should be starting

- Bruno's been crap since getting the armband

- Barnes was a waste of money

- Murphy put in the worst performance ever 

- We can't cross

- We need a #10

- Our midfield isn't balanced

- We don't create enough 

 

And somehow still barely anyone talking about how by hook or crook we do create chances only for Isak and especially Gordon to keep missing them. I don't get it, it's like we're pointing at every possible problem except the glaring one.

 

 

 

 

Isak should have scored the left footed chance, granted. Gordon missed a snap shot that fell to him because a West Ham player decided to put it on a plate for him. Still should be scoring, but his finishing has been crap all season. 
 

We had 2 shots on target all night and outside of that and some decent early runs from Isak. We were wasteful and didn’t create decent chances. We’ve basically created one really good chance all night. The Isak half volley.  
 

We always look like that in the final third. All a bit slow and clueless. Probably why people are complaining as it isn’t like Fabianski has had a MOTM performance or we were regularly creating. It was the Brighton game all over again. Chances to score. But overall a big lack of quality in and around the box.