Newcastle United 3-0 Aston Villa - 26/12/24

[54]

Remember when we played these in pre-season last year, and Howe played an entirely different system that day compared to the opening game of the season. Emery has been reeling ever since and Eddie has had his number whenever we've played them.

[bobbydazzla]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

 

I'll post it again. I don't understand how the stamp with his left foot isn't deliberate. He looks at him before the movement. He straightens his leg and aims it at Schär. Not something you often see at all.

Got ketamine vibes watching that like

[wormy]

8 minutes ago, Stifler said:

I don’t think it was a red, however Reddit is shit for NUFC related stuff.

Everyone on there wants to bash our club at every opportunity, and everyone who supports the club gets downvoted to fuck.

There is also a massive skew to the Arsenal and Liverpool cry babies on there.

 

Oh yeah. The first thread I passed on the tackle it somehow turned in to a circlejerk about how refs hate Salah.

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by wormy

[joeyt]

17 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

Knew this was just a personal thing for you. 

 

Honestly, not filtering my posts for anyone too precious to deal with negativity or criticism. Just put me on ignore (assuming I don't get banned for rising to your argument - the irony being that I've been really positive about all the really positive developments in recent weeks).

 

 

 

 

Doesn't want to debate the daftness of saying a team looks more likely to win after 15 mins when they're a goal down and pressed a few times so that means I'm precious

[David Edgar]

He is 100% looking to land one on Schar. It is so obvious.

[KingArthur]

3 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

 

I'll post it again. I don't understand how the stamp with his left foot isn't deliberate. He looks at Schär way before the movement. He straightens his leg and aims it at Schär. Not something you often see at all.

 

 

 

In my opinion right foot stamp looks more deliberate. 

[Skeletor]

They're both deliberate. And the kicking the water bottle afterwards showed the mentality he was in at the time. Red mist.

[David Edgar]

Just now, KingArthur said:

In my opinion right foot stamp looks more deliberate. 

 

It is the movement with the left initially to get near to Schar which is the first tell. The right foot is also deliberate.

[David Edgar]

2 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Doesn't want to debate the daftness of saying a team looks more likely to win after 15 mins when they're a goal down and pressed a few times so that means I'm precious

 

Fairly sure you're spamming now.

[Dokko]

Emery's post match interview ranks of bitterness. Love it. 😂 

[Chris_R]

43 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Emery going bananas about the red and saying they’ll appeal. Might be wrong. But I don’t remember many genuine protests from their players. Duran and the rest of them all knew he was guilty. 
 

Genuinely don’t know what the fuck people are seeing. Had all the time in the world to get out the way. Thought the left was accidental at first, but that looks worse the more you see it. The right is not even up for debate IMO. 

 

Also, this whole ‘did he mean to’ (he clearly did) is kind of irrelevant, no? Plenty of studs up and stamp type tackles often don’t seem deliberate. But are still red cards. Curtis Jones last year at Spurs. Sadio Mane one year on Ederson for a high boot are examples that spring straight to mind. 

 

The way I look at the tackle is this... If my foot was coming down onto someone who I cared about and I didn't want that to happen, I'd find another way to land. He had options and chose not to take them.

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Chris_R

[Erikse]

10 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

In my opinion right foot stamp looks more deliberate. 

 

Notice how he runs normally, and slowing down by bending his knees to avoid Schärs feet, while looking at him. But all of a sudden he decides to straighten his left leg and plant it at Schär after looking at him for a second or so to see where he is (strange how he "accidentally" put his foot there while he'd been looking straight at him). The left one looked more deliberate imo, because the movement was out of the blue. With his right foot atleast you can make the argument that he was falling.

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Erikse

[David Edgar]

Just now, Chris_R said:

 

The way I look at the tackle is this... If my foot was coming down onto someone who I cared about and I didn't want that to happen, I'd find another way to land. He had options and chose not to take them.

 

 

 

 

Anyone who has played to any level knows you have near perfect situational awareness in incidents like that. You know precisely where that other player is, you know how to avoid hurting them, and you know how you can hurt them. 

 

There isn't a doubt that Duran has made a predetermined move to get near Schar with his left foot stride and then gone for the "oops my right foot landed on him accidentally and raked his back as a lost balance" move. It was clumsy and calculated.

 

The guy is a basket case. No wonder Villa wanted shot of him over the summer. He's gonna do something absolutely mental in the future. 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

I can only assume anyone who thinks John Duran couldn't move his foot whilst in mid air are massively fat and immobile or something. If you're not a sociopath and have normal motor skills your subconscious will automatically adjust your foot, he pretty much verified it when he instantly hoofed a water bottle when the VAR confirmed his dismissal. Not wired up reet,

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Hanshithispantz

[Erikse]

Also important to remember that time "moves slower" for these players. They react very fast to everything. That one second for Duran would be like 3 or more second for the man on the street. For instance you can see it when Bruno smashes that pass in to Isak, and he just casually recieves it perfectly with his left, when people like us wouldn't even have time to move until the ball had passed us.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Erikse

[wormy]

Oh I've now discovered what we've all been missing. Apparently both stamps were the absolute only directions he could've possibly gone to avoid Schar kicking him in the nuts.

[PauloGeordio]

[Ste]

After his right foot makes contact with Schar, he kicks out with it. If it’s accidental, it would plant into his back. He’s in full control, as displayed by his left foot slowing his momentum to allow the right to make contact. 

[cubaricho]

1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said:

Photoshopped as fuck  

[TheHoob]

Aye, how often are players in similar situations and manage to not stand on the opponent? There are a lot of options other than standing on someone full force, leg braced with metal studs raking into them  Surely the natural reaction is to try and avoid them, and if that can't be done, try and land on your knees/arse/anywhere but studs first, certainly not twice 

[Tsunami]

Looks to me like he intentionally gets Schar with his left as he appears to move his foot to connect with Schar. This in turn rolls his ankle and if he’d just let momentum take him he’d have fallen to his left, there was no need to plant his right boot. The more I look at it the more it looks like it took a bit of effort to stop his momentum to catch Schar with his right.

[PauloGeordio]

3 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

[Wolfcastle]

1 hour ago, David Edgar said:

 

Oh, I can't forsee sendings off like you clearly can. Sorry. 

absolutely gutted again I see. 

Yeah we were hanging on for dear life prior to the red-card, that one tame free-kick that anybody could have saved was like the alamo. "like the last 10minutes against Barcelona" thought nobody

 

 

[David Edgar]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

absolutely gutted again I see. 

Yeah we were hanging on for dear life prior to the red-card, that one tame free-kick that anybody could have saved was like the alamo. "like the last 10minutes against Barcelona" thought nobody

 

 

 

Absolutely devastated that the team who I love won against a rival for Europe. Gutted mate, yeah. 

 

Since you live for this, why don't you go through my post history from today and wallow in all my teary posts lamenting the goals we scored - which probably exist, if only for you.

[Dr Venkman]

Agree with everyone saying the left foot is deliberate. Too many getting hung up on the right foot during the game IMO. That left foot stretch is as unnatural as it comes. He deliberately stamped on him with both feet.