Tottenham Hotspur 1-2 Newcastle United (04/01/25)

[elbee909]

Whinge Postecoglu

[alexf]

It's a conscious distraction strategy. 

 

Like Arteta and Arsenal's "Disssssgrace" nonsense last season. Making out like the goal cost them 3 points, distracting from the fact they had barely registered a shot on target if memory serves. 

[madras]

Just now, alexf said:

It's a conscious distraction strategy. 

 

Like Arteta and Arsenal's "Disssssgrace" nonsense last season. Making out like the goal cost them 3 points, distracting from the fact they had barely registered a shot on target if memory serves. 

I'm always surprised, maybe it's me being naive, that journalists in that situation don't ask about decisions that went their way to show them up a bit as just whinging "hey Ange, do you think Gordon's nose getting nearly broken should've been a pen...................mate ?"

[McDog]

18 minutes ago, madras said:

I'm always surprised, maybe it's me being naive, that journalists in that situation don't ask about decisions that went their way to show them up a bit as just whinging "hey Ange, do you think Gordon's nose getting nearly broken should've been a pen...................mate ?"

 

 

Is it they are cowards or just not wanting to make waves? I thought the exact same thing, your man charged a player in the box and smashed his face and there was no call.

 

 

edit: And he didn't play the ball at all.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 02:44 by McDog

[PauloGeordio]

1 hour ago, madras said:

I'm always surprised, maybe it's me being naive, that journalists in that situation don't ask about decisions that went their way to show them up a bit as just whinging "hey Ange, do you think Gordon's nose getting nearly broken should've been a pen...................mate ?"

[Menace]

It's funny how he went from being a breath of fresh air, to a moaning cunt all relatively quickly.

[ExiledGeordie]

Ange is clearly losing it, he was out of order with both Matterface on talksport and the bbc pundit after the match. Maybe he needs to focus on working on actual defending and not kamikaze football. He’ll get sacked eventually because he’s so stubborn. 

[GideonShandy]

Whenever I see him interviewed, head down, refusing to look at the interviewer or the camera, whingeing and snarling in his uniquely boorish way, I'm so proud that our club is managed by such an articulate, well-mannered, thoughtful bloke. And I say a quiet thank-you to Amanda for having the vision to give him the job.  Wouldn't swap wor Eddie for anyone.

[St1pe]

4 hours ago, Disco said:

I’d be absolutely fizzing if that first goal had gone against us like. Not going to lie. However did we not have a similar one with it hitting Gordon on the hand earlier in the season? Might have made that up but it’s not a unique decision at all. Nothing else was contentious IMO if you look at the game as a whole. 

Same. 
 

Unlike the Duran decision the other week which I thought was obvious, we’ve gained an advantage and scored from a ball to hand or handball (whatever they want to call it). I’d be fuming. 

[Elric]

Plenty of tears on that Fighting Cock forum, like

 

Claims of corruption, crying about the 'handball', frankly bizarre worries about relegation... I mean, it'd be fucking hilarious seeing one of either them or Man U relegated (or both), but we can't even flush Everton ffs, there's no fucking chance

[ExiledGeordie]

36 minutes ago, GideonShandy said:

Whenever I see him interviewed, head down, refusing to look at the interviewer or the camera, whingeing and snarling in his uniquely boorish way, I'm so proud that our club is managed by such an articulate, well-mannered, thoughtful bloke. And I say a quiet thank-you to Amanda for having the vision to give him the job.  Wouldn't swap wor Eddie for anyone.

I can understand him being really frustrated at the goal but it’s not a disgrace warranting that outburst. Then going on that they were amazing and deserved to win ffs, just made himself look like a mug 😂

[nufcjb]

That Joelinton ball to hand was phase 1 of a play right and thats why the goal.was given. Had it been like Bruno's against Villa, then that was direct to goal and rightfully disallowed.

[Groundhog63]

Re Ange

Can't remember if it was on here or I saw it on X but someone posted an Australian Football show interview with him when he was National Youth Coach. I think they'd just been dumped out of a Qualifying group with the likes of Thailand etc etc iirc

Anyways he was absolutely fizzing at the questions. Cleary doesn't take any criticism whatsoever. 

Was quite insightful given the image he came here with from Celtic 

[astraguy]

We got lucky tbh not the performance i thought we'd get but its been a long few weeks

[Keegans Export]

2 hours ago, St1pe said:

Same. 
 

Unlike the Duran decision the other week which I thought was obvious, we’ve gained an advantage and scored from a ball to hand or handball (whatever they want to call it). I’d be fuming. 

I get it, the ball has obviously hit his hand and we've obviously gained an advantage from it but as the rules are now, it isn't handball (unless you think Joelinton has handled it on purpose, or gone looking for it) 

 

So I'd probably be annoyed too, but we'd be annoyed at how the rule is written, not the decision itself which was correct. It's arguably a stupid rule but it's not an injustice/corruption/incompetence. 

[GeordieDazzler]

Some interesting stuff on this and give us plenty of credit 

[Boey_Jarton]

3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

I get it, the ball has obviously hit his hand and we've obviously gained an advantage from it but as the rules are now, it isn't handball (unless you think Joelinton has handled it on purpose, or gone looking for it) 

 

So I'd probably be annoyed too, but we'd be annoyed at how the rule is written, not the decision itself which was correct. It's arguably a stupid rule but it's not an injustice/corruption/incompetence. 

It's a frustrating situation as a spurs fan because the ball accidentally hitting Joelinton's hand is the difference between a potential Spurs counter and a Newcastle goal. But, it's not an injustice in anyway and the rules, which are the same for all teams, have been applied correctly.

 

Whilst the current interpretation of the handball rule is not perfect, it was worse before when accidental handball in the build up phase was seeing goals ridiculously ruled out (e.g. Callum Wilson at Liverpool). 

 

 

 

[David Edgar]

Infuriating to see on MotD, Gordon get bodychecked in the box and it be deemed not to be a foul and then in the very next clip Maddison runs into Botman and gets a freekick. 

[St1pe]

20 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

I get it, the ball has obviously hit his hand and we've obviously gained an advantage from it but as the rules are now, it isn't handball (unless you think Joelinton has handled it on purpose, or gone looking for it) 

 

So I'd probably be annoyed too, but we'd be annoyed at how the rule is written, not the decision itself which was correct. It's arguably a stupid rule but it's not an injustice/corruption/incompetence. 

Yeah I get it. I just would have been annoyed. Bruno’s goal was chalked off for something similar last week and although it’s a shit rule everyone pretty much accepted it.

Similar thing happened with Joelinton yesterday. If you’re gaining an advantage from a hand it’s a foul for me. 

 

[Displayname]

Asked Grok to draw me a summary of yesterdays match.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 08:52 by Displayname

[RodneyCisse]

9 hours ago, Disco said:

Took most of the crowd opposite the camera about 5 mins to bother coming out for the second half too. 

With a delayed half time, you’d be more inclined to be back earlier if you purely went off checking your watch 

[Tiresias]

We're all guilty of bias wanting ref calls for our own team but this has been ridiculous

 

a) not only was the first handball absolutely clearly correctly ignored by the ref according to the law, on any other day 99% of their fanbase would be entirely in favour of ignoring completely obviously accidental handballs in the buildup to goals. 

 

b) the dan burn thing, yes he got a big lucky with that but its amazing how football fans suddenly want incredibly pedantic refs throwing yellow cards around for every incident when it would benefit their team. Right so all you want is consistency right? Lets just have constant yellow cards and several red cards a game? No actually most fans (and feel free to correct me on this) want the ref to get involved as little as possible, to protect players from injury and punish cheating. The dan ball 'hand ball; was the kind of minor crap that should never cause a player to be sent off. I hate it when a whole game is ruined for a nothing infraction. 

 

c) The only time there is a case is the joelinton foul. I saw it and thought could be a red. I think there was a case. Just as there was a case for a red for the shove on Gordon. The game was better for the ref giving benefit of the doubt to be honest. Never a game goes by though when an opposition player fails to get red carded for something fans see. Embarassing for a manager to be acting in this myopic a manner. I didnt like it when Mourinho was like this, didnt like it when klopp was like this or now when arteta and postecoglu are like it. Act like the adults in the room not like a screaming moron fan. 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 08:32 by Tiresias

[Hhtoon]

It was a risky pass aimed at JL and could just as easily have hit him anywhere else. In which case the narrative would have changed to sloppy spurs trying to play out form the back etc...

 

Such fine margins!

 

 

Edited Sunday at 08:42 by Hhtoon

[morpeth mag]

11 hours ago, geordie_b said:

 

If the BBC cant get him to explain his comments id certainly hope The FA ask him to clarify as it certainly suggests he thought there was a bias towards us

Should charge him six times...one for every repeat

[MagMal]

They are still moaning on that fighting cock forum, one of them thinks there is a referee conspiracy against them driven by the Premier league in retaliation for dan levey wanting to join that super league thing, they have proper gone full mental.