The Prophet Posted Saturday at 17:57 Share Posted Saturday at 17:57 Probably, it just feels like Gordon and Murphy could use a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Saturday at 18:24 Share Posted Saturday at 18:24 53 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What we thinking line-up wise? Depending on fitness, I'd go: Pope Trippier Botman Burn Hall Tonali Miley Big Joe Osula Wilson Barnes Hall needs a rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted Saturday at 18:38 Share Posted Saturday at 18:38 Its a full week til our next game so barring injury play our best available team please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 18:58 Share Posted Saturday at 18:58 As close to full strength as possible for this I think and hope. That doesn’t mean there can’t be changes. I know we don’t have loads of quality options. But that is one of the criticisms of Howe. We don’t really rotate to keep players fresh or to match up differently week to week. Without looking and I don’t know what you’d even search. We must make close to the least changes to the team a season, unless forced due to injury or suspension. Like Frank says above. We don’t play until a week Monday. So no reason we can’t attack this with a strong XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Saturday at 20:50 Share Posted Saturday at 20:50 I think it's more important that we don't risk players who aren't 100% fit, and put out a hungry side tomorrow. If we go out we go out, but at least we don't endanger the rest of our season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Saturday at 20:52 Share Posted Saturday at 20:52 Into these PSR loving, XG noncing and data fetishists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted Saturday at 21:00 Share Posted Saturday at 21:00 Don't think anyone's advocating risking unfit/injured players. But we should be treating this the same way as if it were a PL match. A win could lead to an historic season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted Saturday at 21:01 Share Posted Saturday at 21:01 I might sound crazy, as this is only the 5th Round and we're in the final of the Carabao, but I genuinely think we have a better chance of winning this cup than the Carabao! Which makes this a huge game, beat these, anyone at home or even Preston away in the next round and I'll be confident of two more Wembley trips! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted Saturday at 21:10 Share Posted Saturday at 21:10 As much a must win game as you get, like previously stated it does feel like a much better chance at silverware than the Carabao, strangely as we're already in thr final for that. We can beat anyone on our day as we have done in plenty of cup games with Howe, the only team we cannot seem to beat, even when we're better than them is Liverpool. Hopefully we'll have 1 or 2 back for this and they can either play a part from the start or as an impact sub, Big Joe, Botman and Isak hopefully all play some part. Let's have these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted Saturday at 21:50 Share Posted Saturday at 21:50 Huge game this. Massive opportunity in this cup if we can win tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted Saturday at 21:52 Share Posted Saturday at 21:52 48 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said: I might sound crazy, as this is only the 5th Round and we're in the final of the Carabao, but I genuinely think we have a better chance of winning this cup than the Carabao! Which makes this a huge game, beat these, anyone at home or even Preston away in the next round and I'll be confident of two more Wembley trips! Nahh, you're not the only one. Think we've good a fair chance against whoever is left in this if we turn up, whereas see very little hope against Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 22:28 Share Posted Saturday at 22:28 Personally I find this whole ‘we’ve got a better chance at winning the FA Cup’ thing really odd. I’ll be the first to disagree then. Sounds proper defeatist and we’re going on like Liverpool are Pep era Barca or something. We were unlucky at home to them in lots of ways. We’ve just been to Anfield minus our best player, best CB and a starting midfielder. Yet despite it being a crap game, played at an odd pace. We were far from disgraced. Tomorrow we have an in form (ish) Brighton side. Then if we get through, 3 more games against the likes of Bournemouth, Fulham and City. Not beat any of them this season. Villa would hardly be an easy game either. Then what about timing with all these games? Injuries, suspensions, form etc. At least the league cup final is in 2 weeks and we’ll ‘hopefully’ be something close to full strength. But yeah. Just get through tomorrow and then Preston at home would be lovely. Bournemouth v City and Villa v Forest or something like that in the quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Saturday at 22:33 Share Posted Saturday at 22:33 Just now, Lush Vlad said: Personally I find this whole ‘we’ve got a better chance at winning the FA Cup’ thing really odd. I’ll be the first to disagree then. Sounds proper defeatist and we’re going on like Liverpool are Pep era Barca or something. We were unlucky at home to them in lots of ways. We’ve just been to Anfield minus our best player, best CB and a starting midfielder. Yet despite it being a crap game, played at an odd pace. We were far from disgraced. Tomorrow we have an in form (ish) Brighton side. Then if we get through, 3 more games against the likes of Bournemouth, Fulham and City. Not beat any of them this season. Villa would hardly be an easy game either. Then what about timing with all these games? Injuries, suspensions, form etc. At least the league cup final is in 2 weeks and we’ll ‘hopefully’ be something close to full strength. But yeah. Just get through tomorrow and then Preston at home would be lovely. Bournemouth v City and Villa v Forest or something like that in the quarters. I think it's been established I'm not an elite football mind and I get the thought that Liverpool are a better team but you are correct. Anything can happen. Newcastle are not far inferior to Liverpool. They can win this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 22:35 Share Posted Saturday at 22:35 (edited) 2 minutes ago, McDog said: I think it's been established I'm not an elite football mind and I get the thought that Liverpool are a better team but you are correct. Anything can happen. Newcastle are not far inferior to Liverpool. They can win this. I mean they’re heavy favourites for a reason. But I’d still think I’d rather a one off game at Wembley against them for a cup. As opposed to 3 games. Possibly against someone like City, Villa or Bournemouth away. Then another decent prem team in the semis and possibly the final. Edit - that’s IF we manage to get past Brighton Edited Saturday at 22:36 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted Saturday at 23:43 Share Posted Saturday at 23:43 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: I mean they’re heavy favourites for a reason. But I’d still think I’d rather a one off game at Wembley against them for a cup. As opposed to 3 games. Possibly against someone like City, Villa or Bournemouth away. Then another decent prem team in the semis and possibly the final. Edit - that’s IF we manage to get past Brighton It doesn't really make much sense mathematically. We would have to be heavy favourites (~65%) in all the last four FA Cup rounds to have as good a chance to lift the FA Cup as beating Liverpool in a one off match is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted yesterday at 00:47 Share Posted yesterday at 00:47 I'm massively soiling the sheets for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted yesterday at 01:37 Share Posted yesterday at 01:37 Would actually like to see Barnes start and Gordon benched. Think he plays better with Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 01:58 Share Posted yesterday at 01:58 21 minutes ago, LFEE said: Would actually like to see Barnes start and Gordon benched. Think he plays better with Wilson. How many games have they actually played together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 06:52 Share Posted yesterday at 06:52 9 hours ago, NUFCDoog said: I might sound crazy, as this is only the 5th Round and we're in the final of the Carabao, but I genuinely think we have a better chance of winning this cup than the Carabao! Which makes this a huge game, beat these, anyone at home or even Preston away in the next round and I'll be confident of two more Wembley trips! I do too. And it’s the FA Cup, which means a fuck ton more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 06:54 Share Posted yesterday at 06:54 7 hours ago, Pata said: It doesn't really make much sense mathematically. We would have to be heavy favourites (~65%) in all the last four FA Cup rounds to have as good a chance to lift the FA Cup as beating Liverpool in a one off match is. Bookies have us 5/1 for the LC and 6/1 for the FA Cup, and that isn’t how odds are calculated - it isn’t a coin-toss. We’re second favourites for both cups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted yesterday at 06:57 Share Posted yesterday at 06:57 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Bookies have us 5/1 for the LC and 6/1 for the FA Cup, and that isn’t how odds are calculated - it isn’t a coin-toss. We’re second favourites for both cups. Erm. We are a best priced 5/2 (3.5) to win the League Cup. Best price of 8s (9.0) for the FA Cup. Not sure what you’re on about here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 06:59 Share Posted yesterday at 06:59 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Erm. We are a best priced 5/2 (3.5) to win the League Cup. Best price of 8s (9.0) for the FA Cup. Not sure what you’re on about here. Before this weekend’s matches we were 5/1 LC, 6/1 FAC. The results this weekend so far will have pushed our odds out for the cup, given that other teams have already gone through - which is why we’d be back out to 8s or 9s. edit: we’ve clearly came in for the LC too. I’m quoting the odds as they were last weekend. Others have also quoted those odds - see the LC Final thread. Edited yesterday at 07:00 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted yesterday at 07:04 Share Posted yesterday at 07:04 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Before this weekend’s matches we were 5/1 LC, 6/1 FAC. The results this weekend so far will have pushed our odds out for the cup, given that other teams have already gone through - which is why we’d be back out to 8s or 9s. edit: we’ve clearly came in for the LC too. I’m quoting the odds as they were last weekend. Others have also quoted those odds - see the LC Final thread. Why would our odds have halved in price for the League Cup all of a sudden?! Did we just beat Liverpool at Anfield or…… Sounds like utter bullshit TBH and people were quoting the wrong odds to start with. Possibly the ‘to win’ market. Which ignores extra time and penalties. Which we are around 4 or 5/1 for. Lift the trophy/win the competition is 5/2. Also. We are still around 6/1 in some places for the FA Cup. Quoting best price for both for fairness. Edited yesterday at 07:06 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted yesterday at 07:29 Share Posted yesterday at 07:29 I'd like to see: Barnes Wilson Orsula Big Joe Tonali Miley Hall Burn Bot Kraft Subravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted yesterday at 08:40 Share Posted yesterday at 08:40 We must go as strong as fitness permits, you have to take the opportunity that the draw and results have presented. Howe will see it this way too and next weekend will be used as the opportunity/option to rotate a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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