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Newcastle United Vs. Nottingham Forest - 23/02/25 @ 14:00 (Live on Sky)


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1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

 

Personally, I'd say if he's fit he starts, if he's not then why put him on the bench? 

Maybe not fit enough to start?

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Just now, Keegans Export said:

 

Personally, I'd say if he's fit he starts, if he's not then why put him on the bench? 

Looking ahead to the week we have, Liverpool on Wednesday and Brighton next Sunday.

 

Heavy week. A bit of rotation is vital now and then (anyway, that's how I'm trying to rationalise something that might not even happen).

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6 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:


Speak for yourself, I"m the son of a miner who was alive during it. And regardless if your were born or not at the time, if you’re from the North East you’ve lived through the direct consequences 

Yes, so for you it’s probably understandable. But when there’s a couple of 17 year old Newcastle fans telling some 17 year old Forest fans they are ‘scabs’, it’s not quite the same.

 

I should point out I’m not necessarily against generational vendetta-holding by any set of fans. To quote our antipodean friend, “it’s who we are, mate”.

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3 minutes ago, SteV said:

Yes, so for you it’s probably understandable. But when there’s a couple of 17 year old Newcastle fans telling some 17 year old Forest fans they are ‘scabs’, it’s not quite the same.

 

I should point out I’m not necessarily against generational vendetta-holding by any set of fans. To quote our antipodean friend, “it’s who we are, mate”.


And as I’ve just said the fact that those 17 year old fans live in a North East, that looks like it does now is a direct result of things that happened in the early ‘80’s, therefore is it so wild for those resentments to still exist?
 

Especially if like many from the area, their parents or grandparents that they still have daily contact with mention it frequently. God forbid that 17 year olds understand their local history and why they’re disadvantaged compared to others in the same country.

 

The Nottingham bit rankles with me on another level too, my first job was as a lab technician for a Pharmaceutical subsidiary of BASF who had a plant in Cramlington. This was largely made possible by EU subsidy, but most of those in the good jobs were merely transplanted from their sister plant in Nottingham, with only entry level positions or plant work offered to locals, so they kept taking the piss even in the late 90’s

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2 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:


And as I’ve just said the fact that those 17 year old fans live in a North East, that looks like it does now is a direct result of things that happened in the early ‘80’s, therefore is it so wild for those resentments to still exist?
 

Especially if like many from the area, their parents or grandparents that they still have daily contact with mention it frequently. God forbid that 17 year olds understand their local history and why they’re disadvantaged compared to others in the same country.

 

The Nottingham bit rankles with me on another level too, my first job was as a lab technician for a Pharmaceutical subsidiary of BASF who had a plant in Cramlington. This was largely made possible by EU subsidy, but most of those in the good jobs were merely transplanted from their sister plant in Nottingham, with only entry level positions or plant work offered to locals, so they kept taking the piss even in the late 90’s

Whilst I’m not gonna dispute any of that, if you think that’s the thought process of the majority of the youth in our fanbase when they tell Forest they are scabs, I think you’re probably giving too much credit to how far genuine local historical knowledge filters down.
 

And that’s not even a dig at the youngsters, they’re just going to the match and joining in what they’ve heard, most likely fairly ignorant of the origins of it. But that’s OK. Better than them just being on their phones…

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2 minutes ago, Zero said:

I do think if we lose this one, the management should be held accountable, not Howe.

Getting this nonsense in here nice and early. Respect. 

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