tommo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Utter shite, looks lazy as fuck. Absolutely horrible business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Surely some dumb Turkish team will be deranged enough to take this chump off our hands come the summer?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 His decent performances are still some flashes in the Fulham cup game and PSV, where to a man we were great and they were equally as terrible. Even factoring in the injury, the lack of minutes and pre-season. It’s pretty shite. Based on how he has played here. I couldn’t even tell you what sort of player he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Fat cunt tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, nemtizz said: Fat cunt tbh Bit harsh on Vlad that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 @Lush Vladis in great shape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Bit harsh on Vlad that No no. TBF fair to him. I am a bit portly these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, Lush Vlad said: No no. TBF fair to him. I am a bit portly these days QE2 got a smaller turning circle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: No no. TBF fair to him. I am a bit portly these days Did you just assume my gender ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 All things considered our worst signing from last summer. Elanga and Woltemade are both young enough to come good or get back a decent proportion of their transfer fee, and Ramsey is now showing his class, but Wissa is sunk resale money and is performing like a 40 year old Cisse. Shame as I thought he'd be the most certain signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 8 minutes ago, 500bhp said: All things considered our worst signing from last summer. Elanga and Woltemade are both young enough to come good or get back a decent proportion of their transfer fee, and Ramsey is now showing his class, but Wissa is sunk resale money and is performing like a 40 year old Cisse. Shame as I thought he'd be the most certain signing. He was the more certain of the strikers/attackers but we still vastly overpaid for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 He's been disappointing so far but any criticism of him today is frankly insane. It was a 15 minute cameo. He's well known as a striker whose two skills are goal poaching in the box and playing on the transition. I don't think he got a single ball break to him in the box (apart from one 1v1 header v Braithwaite) and we had no transition opportunities. You can be frustrated with how he played against Brentford, without blaming him for today's debacle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wissa was poor judgement and absolute panic fuel. Ultimately we decided we would pay whatever it would take to get that premier league proven badge and walked out of the store with Wissa. But let's not pretend DCL was viable for us given his salary request meant he'd be paid as a starter and absolutely nobody wanted DCL as the Isak replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Everyone knew that he was never worth 55m in a month of Sundays, but that's the price we ended up paying cause of the gross mishandling of the window. At the time it felt like the juice was gonna be worth the squeeze, cause he was supposed to be our plug in and play, tap in of a signing ready to hit the ground running, we were even happy to turn a blind eye to the fact that he pulled the same stunt as Isak, albeit under different circumstances. When you turn out to be shit, your price tag becomes an albatross around your neck. In fact, a dead albatross would probably start up front for us this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, Moose said: Everyone knew that he was never worth 55m in a month of Sundays, but that's the price we ended up paying cause of the gross mishandling of the window. At the time it felt like the juice was gonna be worth the squeeze, cause he was supposed to be our plug in and play, tap in of a signing ready to hit the ground running, we were even happy to turn a blind eye to the fact that he pulled the same stunt as Isak, albeit under different circumstances. When you turn out to be shit, your price tag becomes an albatross around your neck. In fact, a dead albatross would probably start up front for us this season. We paid that price because PSR funneled all of our top targets to the cartel clubs, meanwhile our existing striker and Liverpool FC contrived to ensure we had zero leverage in any negotiation. To call it gross mishandling on our part is really unfair imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Gutted that last minute paper work error got sorted with a minute to spare. We’d have been fuming at the time but literally no worse off on the pitch and £50m to spend in January - probably on Wissa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, St1pe said: Gutted that last minute paper work error got sorted with a minute to spare. We’d have been fuming at the time but literally no worse off on the pitch and £50m to spend in January - probably on Wissa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I wrongly assumed he'd slot right in and would change the dynamic of the team as a result of the type of player he is. Turns out you can't stretch backlines if you have less energy than a tortoise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Yorkie said: We paid that price because PSR funneled all of our top targets to the cartel clubs, meanwhile our existing striker and Liverpool FC contrived to ensure we had zero leverage in any negotiation. To call it gross mishandling on our part is really unfair imo People keep saying that PSR did this, but there’s no real evidence that 1) we’d pay over the odds without it and 2) any player would choose us over Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: People keep saying that PSR did this, but there’s no real evidence that 1) we’d pay over the odds without it and 2) any player would choose us over Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea We've already discussed this. On 19/02/2026 at 13:32, Yorkie said: Chelsea already had like four strikers on their books by the time they got Pedro, including Delap who they'd also just signed. If the financial regulations were applied less anti-competitively, there's no way they could go straight back into the market for another extremely coveted attacker. See ManU with Mbeumo and Cunha and Sesko / Liverpool with Wirtz and Ekitike and Isak. PSR funnels the most coveted players to those clubs, basically By all accounts Pedro was all set to come here, Trafford too. The flexibility PSR affords to the clubs they eventually signed for is the only reason why they didn't come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: We've already discussed this. By all accounts Pedro was all set to come here, Trafford too. The flexibility PSR affords to the clubs they eventually signed for is the only reason why they didn't come here. We have, but you (and others) keep saying it like it’s fact. It isn’t. edit: PSR had nothing to do with Trafford turning us down. He went to a bigger club to be their no.1. He didn’t know Pep was going to sign Donnarumma. Edited March 1 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: We have, but you (and others) keep saying it like it’s fact. It isn’t. edit: PSR had nothing to do with Trafford turning us down. He went to a bigger club to be their no.1. He didn’t know Pep was going to sign Donnarumma. I think the PSR point is that we can't compete with the wages the cartel clubs can offer so it's not really a level playing field. I do agree Trafford was always choosing City over us though. In theory us and Chelsea is a bit of a closer choice if we had a bit more financial muscle (as Chelsea have been a bit of a mess over the last couple of years), they are in London though which is probably a plus point over Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, TheEntertainer said: I think the PSR point is that we can't compete with the wages the cartel clubs can offer so it's not really a level playing field. I do agree Trafford was always choosing City over us though. In theory us and Chelsea is a bit of a closer choice if we had a bit more financial muscle (as Chelsea have been a bit of a mess over the last couple of years), they are in London though which is probably a plus point over Newcastle. Man Utd offered Sesko less money than us, and he chose them. Chelsea aren’t just a London club (with its attendant pull), they’re English football’s most successful club of the C21st. We’ve won a LC in that time. We don’t know what PIF would offer without the rules in place - besides, given how Man City and Chelsea spend, perhaps they’d offer even more without the constraints? There’s an idea circulating that Howe would’ve got his first choices without PSR - and it’s an idea that I think is complete and utter bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Man Utd offered Sesko less money than us, and he chose them. Chelsea aren’t just a London club (with its attendant pull), they’re English football’s most successful club of the C21st. We’ve won a LC in that time. We don’t know what PIF would offer without the rules in place - besides, given how Man City and Chelsea spend, perhaps they’d offer even more without the constraints? There’s an idea circulating that Howe would’ve got his first choices without PSR - and it’s an idea that I think is complete and utter bollocks. Did they? I thought I'd read they offered the player significantly more, I thought the offer to the club was slightly lower, but the wages were a lot higher, I may be misremembering though. There's a world without PSR where we can do what City did on the way up and just massively overpay everyone to get them in over the bigger clubs. I'm not sure that's the best idea and even then some players still wouldn't choose us, but it would definitely give us more pulling power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I do agree, if we just matched the wages offered by the big clubs then we would still lose out on most of the players. For the same reason players want to come to us from teams like Forest and Brentford (which isn't just the wage hike) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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