TheBrownBottle Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, greydos said: I was referring to one particular poster saying from Wissa’a stretch and ore-match warmup you can tell he’s lazy. A pre-match warm up does not need to be standard, it just needs to get the individual player ready to perform. If someone has seen Wissa get an injury at the start of a match as he was cold and underprepared then it may be a valid criticism. But as far as I can see it’s just lazy stereotypical b***ocks! I’ve been on this site through the careers of all players on your list. I won’t debate them in detail. I’ll just say that they generally fall into the “mavericks” camp and so apparent laziness was regarded as a ‘feature’ on here, or the “mercenary c***” camp so their lack of work rate was a sign of their disloyalty or lack of ability and why they should be hated. Not sure if the OG post was tongue-in-cheek, though I think it is best to try and be careful when there are some well-worn racist tropes around use of the term ‘lazy’ (and I also think it has to be allowed that not everyone will be aware that there is a trope re the stereotyping of black people as ‘lazy’ - I can take in reasonably good faith that anyone saying it really does mean it in the usual sense). I’m not sure anyone on here is wilfully making that connection (I hope not anyway). I also think Wissa comes across as a bit of mercenary tbh - which I can live with if he performs. We’ve had plenty of players on the books where that applies - some have been great, some ok, some shite. His attitude with Brentford was shit, frankly, and should’ve sounded a warning (what happened to the ‘no dickheads’ policy?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I assume he's a classic striker. Sort of floats around the box, plays off the shoulder of the defender, bags you 20 goals. Which I'd be happy with, really. Thing is, that sort of player, if they're not scoring, looks like a waste of a shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Not sure if the OG post was tongue-in-cheek, though I think it is best to try and be careful when there are some well-worn racist tropes around use of the term ‘lazy’ (and I also think it has to be allowed that not everyone will be aware that there is a trope re the stereotyping of black people as ‘lazy’ - I can take in reasonably good faith that anyone saying it really does mean it in the usual sense). I’m not sure anyone on here is wilfully making that connection (I hope not anyway). I also think Wissa comes across as a bit of mercenary tbh - which I can live with if he performs. We’ve had plenty of players on the books where that applies - some have been great, some ok, some shite. His attitude with Brentford was shit, frankly, and should’ve sounded a warning (what happened to the ‘no dickheads’ policy?). Thanks - I have edited the original post to remove ‘lazy’ from it as wasn’t aware of that trope and don’t want to cause offence. Yes, a bit tongue in cheek as hoping to reverse jinx in to form like several others I have naively written off… It’s a typical situation where if a player is performing then no one notices how many sprints he makes, but if he’s underperforming then every aspect is scrutinised. Particularly when transfer fee was so large (not his fault). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Tbf, even Gordon’s been called lazy this season. Never thought Isak was lazy, just didn’t have the engine. Personally, I’d prefer our strikers to not lose all the explosiveness in their legs from pressing, reserve it for attempts on goal. However, that has not been EH’s route to success. Haven’t seen enough of Wissa to have any opinion about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 The laziest performance I can remember was Messi walking about while Germany won the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 C. Ronaldo has come close too…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, greydos said: The amount of black footballers that get labelled ‘lazy’ on here is amazing! And only Jonjo Shelvey of other ethnicities attracts the same label. How can a stretch be performed lazily? Proper Nonsense! This is a wild take, he looks lazy because he jogs about the pitch all game, I'm hoping it's because he's been injured and isn't fully fit, but he has looked slow and disinterested so I understand why people would think he was lazy. I do think reading anything into a warmup is also a bit bonkers mind. Need to be really careful about not falling into the trap of not being able to criticise anyone for anything because they are a minority. I honestly thought we'd got past this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I find players that are perceived as underperforming often get called lazy or cowardly, when often it’s just lack of ability. In Wissas case I think the injury killed him, it took his pace and he has to adjust to not being able to do what he used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 I saw Thierry Henry play for NY Red Bulls and he basically strolled about while scoring a goal on demand whenever they needed one. Not sure if lazy or smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 41 minutes ago, TheEntertainer said: This is a wild take, he looks lazy because he jogs about the pitch all game, I'm hoping it's because he's been injured and isn't fully fit, but he has looked slow and disinterested so I understand why people would think he was lazy. I do think reading anything into a warmup is also a bit bonkers mind. Need to be really careful about not falling into the trap of not being able to criticise anyone for anything because they are a minority. I honestly thought we'd got past this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Was he always this big? Swear he was thinner at Brentford. Looks to put on more weight week to week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Tindall is a feeder and now Wissa is a blimp. Him and the Elanga transfers are taking us back years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Astroblack said: Was he always this big? Swear he was thinner at Brentford. Looks to put on more weight week to week. Fucking Greggs to blame for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Did he run? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, nufc123 said: Did he run? For his post match sausage roll? Aye, scarpered down the tunnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Little harsh to judge him today on 15 mins. More pissed off at another Woltemade no show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 My six year old daughter would have more presence up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 To be fair he did do a strong point for a corner when he completely missed his header & it bounced onto him from the defender From small acorns grow large oaks His pointing has been a massive plus for us so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Do wonder if we should see if he can do anything on the right or left, which he's done previously with Brentford. I dunno, just think he's really poor as a CF in our system currently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolc157 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Fuckin shite… get rid… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 If we get offered anything close to 30 million, just get rid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Just now, toon25 said: If we get offered anything close to 30 million, just get rid I think that’s close to the max other clubs would’ve offered last summer. We’re stuck with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearljam10 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 We could have had Calvert-Lewin for free, but instead chose to pay £55m for a sausage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 IF we can somehow ship him to Saudi then let’s do it He is wank - offers nothing and is a complete drain on the squad Whoever sanctioned this deal at 55m needs to go aswell because it was complete negligence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Pearljam10 said: We could have had Calvert-Lewin for free, but instead chose to pay £55m for a sausage But a good majority of posters on here wanted this sausage in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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