Lush Vlad Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, St1pe said: Ramsey catching strays Poor old Ramsey. I thought he played well and all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 He's conceded a goal a game which could've been totally avoidable - this isn't the kind of statistics that would make your defence confident. I get nervous when I see him starting. Even if he's available for a discount, his wages are big - so no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, St1pe said: Personal opinion is we’re going to need to I’d imagine. Although unless we sell someone I don’t think it’s a good use of funds now you mention it. Ideally both need to be replaced and unless Pope is happy to be a no2 and sign a deal deal on that basis it puts us in a dodgy position with contract lengths and age. But even so. Is £20-25m for a number 2 who fans seem to be fairly unanimous on, in regards to him not being very good. A good use of funds in this PSR day and age? Absolutely not, would be my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Apart from one brilliant pass along the floor straight into Ramsey during the first half I didn't think he was much cop with his feet yesterday either, there were a few Pope-esque hoofs to nowhere and inviting needless pressure. And that's without the corner for holding the ball too long, albeit I thought that was a bit on the harsh side as he rolled it out right on the ref's last count Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: But even so. Is £20-25m for a number 2 who fans seem to be fairly unanimous on, in regards to him not being very good. A good use of funds in this PSR day and age? Absolutely not, would be my view. This is where we need our scouting network etc to work to find some good young GK for a good value, not an overpriced overated english GK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The mackems found a keeper for about £10m quid who seems promising and he's young - they are out there. I'd much prefer that then signing a EPL keeper on hefty wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Menace said: The mackems found a keeper for about £10m quid who seems promising and he's young - they are out there. I'd much prefer that then signing a EPL keeper on hefty wages More than promising. He’s been better than both our keepers this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said: More than promising. He’s been better than both our keepers this season. Aye he's probably the one player who I'd take off them to get in our best starting 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, jack j said: Aye he's probably the one player who I'd take off them to get in our best starting 11 I would probably take Xhaka as well. Hes been fantastic for them. The rest can get to fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said: Botman should clear it before any of that happens. It’s mainly on him. But Ramsdale is glued to his line as per usual. Botman culpable no doubting that but a good goalkeeper anticipates the danger and is put his goal a lot quicker to take control of the situation. Also think opposition strikers seem to be able to slide the ball past him far to easily. Needs to be spreading himself much better. Schmeichel was the best ever at that and tbf to Pope he isn't bad at doing it either. Ramsdale seems to manage to make himself smaller.and he hasn't got much presence in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 He’s as shite as I expected him to be, which is probably the best compliment I can pay him. If we even consider buying him, we’re fucking nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: I wouldn't say he was at fault but a good keeper spreads himself well and blocks it. He seems to shrink in those situations. He's conceded a few similar type goals. Agree. I've tried to be supportive of him here, I really wanted him to work out. But while he's not making massive mistakes, he doesn't really make any outstanding saves either. One of the key attributes of a keeper should be coming out and making himself bigger, and he doesn't do it convincingly. Too many fly into the corners from distance, which might look like well placed shots, but would a top keeper not get across unless they are hit really hard? Regardless, I thought he was superb in the penalty shoot out, and he deserves to be a hero for that. I don't want him here permanently though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 People on this forum seem generally very harsh on him. I don't think there are many better 2nd choice keepers than him in EPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong989 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 hours ago, aussiemag said: I would probably take Xhaka as well. Hes been fantastic for them. The rest can get to fuck. This is one of the areas I think Howe falls short in, the ‘small pool of players’ theory. When there’s an undervalued player who can improve the squad, we should be in. Eddie seems too set on certain areas/targets, and pursues them even when they aren’t available. Arteta signing Trossard is a good example. It’s speculative, but I get the impression that Eddie wouldn’t have considered that type of move, as Trossard wasn’t noticeably better than what they had at the time. But he was good enough to add something tangible at a good price and won them lots of points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Not willing to entertain anyone claiming calamity Pope is better, but we need a new keeper in the summer if we want to progress as a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Conjo said: Not willing to entertain anyone claiming calamity Pope is better, but we need a new keeper in the summer if we want to progress as a club. This is how ppl speak of a GK who has been an integral part of a teams best side for 20 years and the first keeper to win a trophy with us in 70 years. The fickle-ness of fans is something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, kenlau88210 said: People on this forum seem generally very harsh on him. I don't think there are many better 2nd choice keepers than him in EPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 If we don't take up the option of signing him in the summer, I'm also pretty sure none of the other top 6/7 clubs will be in for him either. He's just not at that level. I'm hoping we can find ourselves a gem from abroad like what the mackems have done. I've got mates over in Holland who didn't even know much about the Keeper they signed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: If we don't take up the option of signing him in the summer, I'm also pretty sure none of the other top 6/7 clubs will be in for him either. He's just not at that level. I'm hoping we can find ourselves a gem from abroad like what the mackems have done. I've got mates over in Holland who didn't even know much about the Keeper they signed! It could mean also that his price comes down to the £10-15m mark though in which he'd be more attractive as a number 2. Go for a better number 1 who'll help improve the way we play. Sell Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: It could mean also that his price comes down to the £10-15m mark though in which he'd be more attractive as a number 2. Go for a better number 1 who'll help improve the way we play. Sell Pope. I'd rather send him back and keep Pope as a number 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 31 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I'd rather send him back and keep Pope as a number 2. If we do this, you're going to have to change how you play every time the first-choice is injured or for cups. Get a keeper who can play and at least there's continuity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The primary job of a goalkeeper is to keep the ball out the net . In open play he struggles to do that. He's not worth the fee. We need to push for a starting keeper and have Pope as number 2 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 10 hours ago, Menace said: The mackems found a keeper for about £10m quid who seems promising and he's young - they are out there. We should pull a Liverpool-Isak on them 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we do this, you're going to have to change how you play every time the first-choice is injured or for cups. Get a keeper who can play and at least there's continuity. It’s exactly what we’re doing now Real Madrid’s backup GK cost £5m. Prior to Trafford Man City got their backup GK for free. Arsenals cost £5m But it is Newcastle United that should sign a new GK to start and spend £20m on a backup GK. It is well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 26 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: If we do this, you're going to have to change how you play every time the first-choice is injured or for cups. Get a keeper who can play and at least there's continuity. I'm old fashioned I admit but first and foremost I just want a keeper who can stop shots and command his area. Tbh I don't think Ramsdale has been anything special with his feet anyway and the fact that his starting position tends to be 10 yards deeper than Pope's sort of negates him being better with his feet. Pope would be an excellent number 2 and the £15m/£20m it would cost to bring in Ramsdale would be better spent elsewhere imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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