Jørgen Strand Larsen

[gdm]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

Still fancy our chances here, but I’ve been wrong many times before.

I think he’ll sign. Think Arokodare is his replacement, which will see Isak gone 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by gdm

[Andy84]

2 minutes ago, gdm said:

I think he’ll sign. Think Arokodare is his replacement, which will see Isak gone 

 

 

 

Think they’ve said he isn’t 

[Rich]

3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

And I hope your wrong this time

He’d be a quality signing.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Rich said:

He’d be a quality signing.

He's quite limited imo. Not a player good enough for a CL team who won't improve much either in terms of his game. Not really keen on having two centre forwards who don't/can't run in behind either. 

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

Think they’ve said he isn’t 

We’ve also said Isak isn’t for sale yet are trying to sign his replacement. It’s the game 

[Rich]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

He's quite limited imo. Not a player good enough for a CL team who won't improve much either in terms of his game. Not really keen on having two centre forwards who don't/can't run in behind either. 

There’s no way you can say this with such certainty given what we’ve seen done with the likes of Burn, Murphy, and Joelinton.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Rich said:

There’s no way you can say this with such certainty given what we’ve seen done with the likes of Burn, Murphy, and Joelinton.

I mean he's never going to get quicker or become an amazing dribbler/creator. His output may improve but I think in key moments it's the kind of player to be found wanting. 

[duo]

5 minutes ago, Rich said:

He’d be a quality signing.

Would rather keep Isak 

[Rich]

Just now, r0cafella said:

I mean he's never going to get quicker or become an amazing dribbler/creator. His output may improve but I think in key moments it's the kind of player to be found wanting. 

Fair enough, that. I think he’s got more about him than people give him credit for and some real core strengths that we’ve lacked for a long while. Hopefully we get him so we can see

[Rich]

Just now, duo said:

Would rather keep Isak 

There’s surely no way back?

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Rich said:

There’s no way you can say this with such certainty given what we’ve seen done with the likes of Burn, Murphy, and Joelinton.

All of these are still limited. Maube emove Burn but the other two it's true.

 

As great as they've been what has really got us 5th and a trophy last season is that gold-dust of Tonali, Bruno & Isak. We are likely to lose one of our gold players, hopefully Nick is another one but that's the level we need to really push us on. The Howe premium on middling talents is great but will only take us so far. We need another gold standard player imo.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Rich said:

Fair enough, that. I think he’s got more about him than people give him credit for and some real core strengths that we’ve lacked for a long while. Hopefully we get him so we can see

I actually think he's a decent player, just not one that strikes me as elite or having the potential to be. 

[HayDen Traces]

He's not Isak. Of course not. But he could offer us a badly needed focal point and ensure we're not throwing all our hopes on a young U21 German with 1 decent season under his belt

[duo]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

There’s surely no way back?

100% there is - once the window shuts it doesn't serve the player or agent for Isak not to play.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by duo

[Matt1892]

Pointless comparing him to Isak when he will be Wilson’s replacement.

[Rich]

Just now, r0cafella said:

I actually think he's a decent player, just not one that strikes me as elite or having the potential to be. 

The thing for me is, we saw how many goals Callum Wilson scored in a poorer version of the team/formation we use now. Even pre-injury there’s no way I’m having Wilson labelled ‘elite’ at any point in his career. Woltemade is the elite-level/soon-to-be elite level striker that Isak is/was, it’s the consistent goals and better physical play that Wilson brought we need alongside that now. 

[Rich]

1 minute ago, duo said:

100% there is - once the window shuts it doesn't serve the player or agent for Isak not to play.

 

It could serve us long-term, though, which is all that matters.

[Armchair Pundit]

Can't help feeling he's a bit too much like Woltemade, we could really do with someone with more speed, so we have options to change things up during games.

[duo]

Just now, Rich said:

It could serve us long-term, though, which is all that matters.

from a PSR perspective?  If we keep Isak now we've a cert who we know fits into the system and gives time for Woltemade to adapt much like Wilson did for Isak.  Then come next Summer let him go.  Larsen whilst he's PL experience would have to learn our system / style of play which takes time. 

[Hanshithispantz]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I actually think he's a decent player, just not one that strikes me as elite or having the potential to be. 

Think in our system having a target to hit who is lethal in the box is potentially as good as what Isak gives us tbf. We'd obviously be overpaying, but I think tactically Howe could make the fee worthwhile.

 

 

Edited August 31, 2025 by Hanshithispantz

[Rich]

Just now, duo said:

from a PSR perspective?  If we keep Isak now we've a cert who we know fits into the system and gives time for Woltemade to adapt much like Wilson did for Isak.  Then come next Summer let him go.  Larsen whilst he's PL experience would have to learn our system / style of play which takes time. 

From a not letting players take the piss out of us perspective. The latest comments from Howe don’t point to much genuine desire from him or the players to welcome Isak back, but stranger things have happened.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

The thing for me is, we saw how many goals Callum Wilson scored in a poorer version of the team/formation we use now. Even pre-injury there’s no way I’m having Wilson labelled ‘elite’ at any point in his career. Woltemade is the elite-level/soon-to-be elite level striker that Isak is/was, it’s the consistent goals and better physical play that Wilson brought we need alongside that now. 

But Callum when he was fit and scoring had that yard of pace ya know?he could get in behind and break lines. Plus to be honest the goal should always be to upgrade at least in terms of potential at least. We should be aiming for a guy who has the potential to be better than Callum was at his peak. 

 

 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Think in our system having a target to hit who is lethal in the box is potentially as good as what Isak gives us tbf. We'd obviously be overpaying, but I think tactically Howe could make the fee worthwhile.

 

 

 

Isn't this what big Nick is? I know Nick is obviously more than that but he seems to be able to hold up play from what I saw. Do we need another guy doing that?

 

Especially at 65m 130m on two strikers is kinda nuts tbh. 

[Rich]

Just now, r0cafella said:

But Callum when he was fit and scoring had that yard of pace ya know?he could get in behind and break lines. Plus to be honest the goal should always be to upgrade at least in terms of potential at least. We should be aiming for a guy who has the potential to be better than Callum was at his peak. 

JSL fits the bill for me, but that’s where we disagree. Wissa definitely doesn’t, fwiw.

[r0cafella]

Just now, Rich said:

JSL fits the bill for me, but that’s where we disagree. Wissa definitely doesn’t, fwiw.

Not keen on Wissa either.

 

Wouldn't pay real money for any player over 28 personally.