AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: That last paragraph is telling - the comment on needing your best players available to deliver the style of football he wants. Basically it's a style for the first 11 and not for the squad Depends on the quality of the squad maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 When I saw he wasn’t starting again (which was expected), I lost most of my motivation to watch tbh. Wolte just represents that change of approach that we’ve been crying out for which, for whatever reason, we seem allergic to make. Even with five defeats in a row and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 43 minutes ago, Dyeyzzon said: When I saw he wasn’t starting again (which was expected), I lost most of my motivation to watch tbh. Wolte just represents that change of approach that we’ve been crying out for which, for whatever reason, we seem allergic to make. Even with five defeats in a row and all that. Yep. Nothing to play for. Try something new ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 It's basically Eddie's choice really. I respect him for what he has done for us but being stubborn when things aren't going your way is not gong to help anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, Jack14Bojangles said: That won't happen under Howe. Eddie is resistant to learning and clings to his unsuccessful concept. I've no beef with people thinking the manager should leave and can see that he may well be approaching the end of the road. But know-nowts like this, who've been following the club for about five minutes, making bullshit assessments based on the treatment of their favourite player is tedious as fuck. That "unsuccessful concept" the manager is clinging to has delivered the best years and moments of my life in terms of supporting this club, which you wouldn't have a fucking clue about. He's played Woltemade in almost 50 games this season and he's mostly been a bag of shite, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jack14Bojangles said: That won't happen under Howe. Eddie is resistant to learning and clings to his unsuccessful concept. 5 hours ago, Jack14Bojangles said: Howe and Wolte are a bad match. Nick should leave the club if Eddie remains the coach. He's too good to be on the bench. Furthermore, he'll ruin his national team career if he continues to get too little playing time under Howe. Tbf, with respect, you're a Nick Woltemade fan not a Newcastle fan and haven't necessarily been around long enough to make these assertions about our manager. That's not to say that others might not make them, but 'unsuccessful concept' doesn't match up with our overwhelming success under Howe until this season and "Howe and [insert player here] are a bad match" could have been said about a handful of new signings under Howe who then played much more the following season and hit form. Edited April 26 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Yorkie going scorched earth and me trying to be respectful...interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I've no beef with people thinking the manager should leave and can see that he may well be approaching the end of the road. But know-nowts like this, who've been following the club for about five minutes, making bullshit assessments based on the treatment of their favourite player is tedious as fuck. That "unsuccessful concept" the manager is clinging to has delivered the best years and moments of my life in terms of supporting this club, which you wouldn't have a fucking clue about. He's played Woltemade in almost 50 games this season and he's mostly been a bag of shite, mate. mostly been a bag of shite? Jesus fucking Christ Edited April 26 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Zero said: mostly been a bag of shite? Jesus fucking Christ Mostly aye. He's shown glimpses and little more. For the manager's future to hinge on the specific matter of Woltemade would be lunacy. Fwiw I do like Woltemade and I've said this all season. I think he's an interesting player and could be a great one. But I absolutely do not subscribe to the opinion that he's been hung out to dry; he's had boatloads of opportunities - and I include being played in midfield among that. He needed to get involved in the play. Anyway, my central point wasn't even really about Woltemade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I said about him in Jan that he's one i'm happy we keep, it's his first season in the league and the manager has not done him any favors whatsoever by playing one style and it's a style that doesn't suit him. he should not be playing in midfield but i've seen enough of him to say he can still be success here, unlike Wissa who is clearly a dud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: Yorkie going scorched earth and me trying to be respectful...interesting. Incredible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 8 hours ago, MagPar said: He's clearly not. Apologies if you were being sarcastic. I was not. Just about every player at NUFC has improved under his watch, some well beyond the capacity we thought they were capable of. This season some players have regressed due to age, others because there's massive systemic issues with the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMSIllustrious Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 @Yorkie I guess your anger about @Jack14Bojangles led to collateral damage for Nick 😀. He hasnt been shite for most of the season, he scored at the beginning, then had a very dry spell and then had cameos of many different kinds (most okayish). All in all a 6/7 season which is more than I expected from him (not his fault that we overpaid). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 We didn’t even overpay. We paid for a lad that is continuing to develop, and who already has some really strong attributes. He’s got quite a unique game and with some more coaching he can become an extremely good player. If we sell him it’s a huge indictment on us and not him, in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Basically it's a style for the first 11 and not for the squad That's it in a nut shell- issue this season with Isak leaving he didn't have a first 11 to play it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, HMSIllustrious said: @Yorkie I guess your anger about @Jack14Bojangles led to collateral damage for Nick 😀. He hasnt been shite for most of the season, he scored at the beginning, then had a very dry spell and then had cameos of many different kinds (most okayish). All in all a 6/7 season which is more than I expected from him (not his fault that we overpaid). maybe. I'm unashamedly triggered by pretty much any snark towards an active club legend, because he doesn't deserve it and it depresses the life out of me (regardless of his performance this season), but when it's coming from people who know next to nothing about the club it's particularly jarring. Like I say, I do like big Nick and hope we somehow get the best out of him. I do think there's some Luque goggles from some though. 'Expensive attacker from abroad so must be class despite everything I'm seeing' vibes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, gbandit said: We didn’t even overpay. We paid for a lad that is continuing to develop, and who already has some really strong attributes. He’s got quite a unique game and with some more coaching he can become an extremely good player. If we sell him it’s a huge indictment on us and not him, in my opinion I think either he goes or Howe goes tbh. He might be a really good striker in a different team, I just don't see how he fits in a Howe one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I do think folk tend to overrate him a tad but I definitely believe he deserves more of a chance in the position I assume he’s played his full life. Feel he’s been hung out to dry and the evidence pretty much backs up the fact we’ve got more points with him as a forward. We’re absolutely fucking shit - statistically the worst side in the league in 2026 (alongside spurs and Burnley) just give him a shot up front and try and see something. Hell, even give the player a bit confidence heading into the World Cup. Really poor management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Been nice to see him turn and carry the ball a bit in the last couple of appearances. Something he did do on his highlights before he joined. Sometimes think we’re proceeding on the assumption he can’t run at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) Needs to be playing and it's really that simple. We are toothless and instantly look a better team when he's in it. Physically he needs to catch up, yet how is this possible when he barely features? Also, him playing would give the crowd something to get behind. Edited April 26 by Stuy_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 45 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Been nice to see him turn and carry the ball a bit in the last couple of appearances. Something he did do on his highlights before he joined. Sometimes think we’re proceeding on the assumption he can’t run at all. Yeah he was called ‘WolteMessi’ before he signed, but he’s hardly had a dribble for us. If he can do that for us with his vision, then he becomes far more dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Chicken Dancer said: I do think folk tend to overrate him a tad but I definitely believe he deserves more of a chance in the position I assume he’s played his full life. Feel he’s been hung out to dry and the evidence pretty much backs up the fact we’ve got more points with him as a forward. We’re absolutely fucking shit - statistically the worst side in the league in 2026 (alongside spurs and Burnley) just give him a shot up front and try and see something. Hell, even give the player a bit confidence heading into the World Cup. Really poor management. The reason this happens is because there is something to believe in, even if he's a long way away from it rn. No offence to most of the squad, but a lot of their ceilings are really low. Nobody wants to hear in potential and I get that but it also gets people excited, there's not a lot to be excited about outside of a few exceptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Mole said: The reason this happens is because there is something to believe in, even if he's a long way away from it rn. No offence to most of the squad, but a lot of their ceilings are really low. Nobody wants to hear in potential and I get that but it also gets people excited, there's not a lot to be excited about outside of a few exceptions. Yep - this is it for me. He’s got something other players can’t do. The issue before he was either too far from goal or too isolated. For me, Howe should have been working on that tactically not shoe horning Gordon up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Yeah he was called ‘WolteMessi’ before he signed, but he’s hardly had a dribble for us. If he can do that for us with his vision, then he becomes far more dangerous. He just did that within 20 mins last night. Did people really watch the game or just imagine he is Jan Koller the inferior version? Edited April 26 by Zero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Zero said: He just did that within 20 mins last night. Did people really watch the game or just imagine he is Jan Koller the inferior version? Will have no shade upon Koller. That Koller - Baros partnership was lethal and peak football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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