Casey Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Tis a bit mental to think being negative after that combined home & away fixture is an unusual or unfair response. When we played equivalently shit back in the day I'd be similarly negative and critical, so because we're better now I should just swallow the shit being served? Weird take like. Not sure why this thread exists or what purpose it has other than someone having their form of gripe and letting out some frustration similar to every other human knocking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Kid Icarus said: " " That’s half the point, aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Sir Joel Inton said: Have you got a poster to evidence who has made these comments without additional context, explanation, viewpoint or suggestion? I’ve seen people say x player is no good, but in other threads making reasonable critiques or suggestions on alternatives. Can’t say I’ve seen any poster just posting comments like that. Seriously? Every single game thread for starters. I get people get emotional but it's so over the top. It's not limited to that and I get that people are frustrated as you mentioned but calm the fuck down folks. Go apeshit when the season ends and if it all fell apart then fine. Mention who you feel should be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: A Are you serious? Just go to the Wissa thread right now. I see lots of discussion about whether he’s good enough for the price we paid, whether his work ethic is adequate at the moment, whether he is fully fit, etc. not sure I see any posters making relentlessly negative posts that every player and Howe is shit as the original poster suggested. Edited February 4 by Sir Joel Inton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Again, care to share any examples of this? Poster like gdm did that all summer, saying they were piled on for being negative. I've cited a whole host of examples of those exact comments over the last few years. Kid Icarus can verify that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Sir Joel Inton said: I see lots of discussion about whether he’s good enough for the price we paid, whether his work ethic is adequate at the moment, whether he is fully fit, etc. not sure I see any posters making relentlessly negative posts that every player and Howe is shit as the original poster suggested. 30 minutes ago, lovejoy said: He’s absolutely fucking awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 23 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: NWOAT There’ll always be uber negative, miserable people and head-in-the-sand positive people both in football and in life. Same with football fans; some spend matches waiting to jump on the manager or a player’s back at the first opportunity and there’s those who think the sun shines out the club’s or manager’s arse. With us this season however the truth is somewhere in the middle. And to not get worked up about it. This. There were people who complained during the Keegan and SBR eras. Just a part of it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Sir Joel Inton said: I see lots of discussion about whether he’s good enough for the price we paid, whether his work ethic is adequate at the moment, whether he is fully fit, etc. not sure I see any posters making relentlessly negative posts that every player and Howe is shit as the original poster suggested. Again, maybe you gloss over them, trust me, everybody including Bruno is called shit, just how often. In Wissa's case it's all the time. Most here back Howe is true, and nobody is required to back him but the shit he gets just surprises me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Poster like gdm did that all summer, saying they were piled on for being negative. I've cited a whole host of examples of those exact comments over the last few years. Kid Icarus can verify that. Yeah, it happens all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: Also lovejoy in Ramsey’s thread: ”We have a player here” So, he’s not relentlessly negative then, is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 31/01/2026 at 14:42, Minhosa said: I’m glad you are. Maybe the fans just need to sing his name some more He is fucking dreadful. Zero technical ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 39 minutes ago, toon25 said: Fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottlob Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Football is a form of release and whether I'm at the match or visiting an online forum I expect to see plenty of whingeing and moaning. I'd even say that I enjoy a good dose of criticism - a vehement put-down, an exasperated blowout or some gallows humour - more than I can empathise with those who seem to think that the purpose of football actually lies in supporting the team. It's the same when people moan about (or in tonight's case praise) the fans. Crowds are probably a bit quieter these days in general owing to the older and wealthier demographics of those who attend. But even in the Keegan days there was plenty of whingeing and impatience, we have always jeered a backwards pass when we're chasing the game, been loudest rarely in support of the team but instead in a show of outrage and defiance against an official, and when we're getting thumped (like we were tonight) some of that gallows humour and defiance comes out and the support is ironically better than ever. I will say that there are many people who are overly negative in my opinion especially when it comes to Howe, but my impression is that most of the insults and self-victimisation actually stems from the other side who respond to sometimes even mild criticism with cries of 'Here we go again!' or 'What is it with you people?' and frequently litter their responses with 'moron' and 'cunt' etc. Also some of the same posters who derided fans for attending the games in the Ashley era now seem to demand an incessant and sometimes absurd stream of positivity. We've gone from spending nothing and finishing say 12th in the Premier League to spending lots and being owned by the super rich while expecting to finish around 5th or 6th. It both is and isn't a big difference and expectations always shift very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We played poorly under Keegan on extremely rare occasions but still acknowledged as much and it was fair cop to say 2000/01 was woeful under Sir Bobby. We've gone backwards distinctly in performances, results and enjoyment of football, as its February and has been the same all season its a reasonable to not be happy with things at least as reasonable to think everything's going to work out fine. That's the nature of being midtable surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 @Vinny Green Balls I’m not sure what point you’re proving other than my own that people may make individual one off comments, but are not relentlessly negative about every player and staff member in every thread as has been described. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Also lovejoy in Ramsey’s thread: ”We have a player here” So, he’s not relentlessly negative then, is he? you're missing the point again. Changing the goalposts fallacy. It's exactly this type of reactionary hyperbole garbage I'm talking about. Some are way more guilty of it than others. Do the Ronaldo and pretend that it doesn't happen, but it clearly does. La Parka accused Howe of a dereliction of duty on Saturday. Edited February 4 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We live in a world driven by clicks and engagement. People can say something controversial and it attracts more attention than “good effort lads we go again Saturday.” I do think as a fanbase we get way too low with any defeat and not the equivalent high when we win. It feels like the majority are very good at pulling the negatives from any situation and not so much the positives. On a related note, anyone else properly fatigued by this season? It must be great if you play and win all the time but every 3 days we get dragged through the wringer. Ready for the season to end and there’s another 20 games to play yet or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) Can we also take into consideration that some people (myself included) are exiled away from Newcastle and surrounding areas and we don't get an outlet to vent our frustrations about the team nor bask in its glory and this forum is the only means we get to shoot the shit about the team, good or bad. If I sound overly negative on a post it's probably cause I'm unleashing all my pent up frustrations by the only means I really have. Just because someone has a negative outlook on something doesn't mean they should be peer pressured into silence because those with a negative opinion are lambasted and told to shut up/support another team, that's how you end up with a hive minded echo chamber of happy clappers not a forum Edited February 4 by Moose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 36 minutes ago, tgarve said: There is a real problem in our fanbase now of so called ‘ fans’ taking pleasure in their negativity coming true seeing that as a ‘win’ Saying they are not bothered about a Semi final, saying they wish the manager plays a second side when 2 goals down, criticising everything. Willing their negativity to come true so they are ‘right’ Now we are at another level can we not just ENJOY it It’s honestly just draining Great crack... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 12 minutes ago, McDog said: Pointing out holes is different than Wissa is shit, Elanga is shit, Trippier is shit, Tonali is shit. Ramsdale is shit. Eddie is shit. Wilson is shit. PIF is shit. How does that help get us to be more successful? @Vinny Green Balls The goalposts. I’ve asked for an example of a poster who does this. You’re finding one off posts from different posters on singular topics. We do not have relentlessly negative posters. We have: 17 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: frustration can of course become emotive and some reactions or particular words may reflect that. Some said in the heat of the moment, others because that person might be having a generally shitty time or day outside of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I think our fans our great and would never childishly parrot their extremely negative takes back at them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Sir Joel Inton said: @Vinny Green Balls The goalposts. I’ve asked for an example of a poster who does this. You’re finding one off posts from different posters on singular topics. We do not have relentlessly negative posters. We have: Not sure I can be arsed to compile a greatest hits but I certainly could. I'm not saying you are overly negative but there are some who wallow in it, and maybe that's just a personality thing and people maybe can't help that. Anyway, I said my piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Sir Joel Inton said: @Vinny Green Balls The goalposts. I’ve asked for an example of a poster who does this. You’re finding one off posts from different posters on singular topics. We do not have relentlessly negative posters. We have: We absolutely do have relentlessly negative posters. Lucky (Dr Jinx) was a prime example. Dokko often times. Whitley Mag. wyndavies just to name a few. And that list is by no means comprehensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: you're missing the point again. Changing the goalposts fallacy. It's this type of reactionary hyperbole garbage I'm talking about. But I don't think there exists any fanbase where you don't see comments like that at times. I'm sure if I looked at Arsenal's forum there would be some there aswell, even with how well they are doing this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Have you got a poster to evidence who has made these comments without additional context, explanation, viewpoint or suggestion? I’ve seen people say x player is no good, but in other threads making reasonable critiques or suggestions on alternatives. Can’t say I’ve seen any poster just posting comments like that. You have got to be joking. Just this past week I can confirm that so called fans have said; Sell Pope. Trippier get rid (I was one of them). Tonali, get a good offer take it. Willock, sell. Ramsey, waste of money. Joelinton, see Tonali. Gordon, sell to Liverpool. Wissa, useless. Woltemade, hopeless (I was one of them). Elanga, the majority of fans hate him. Look I've probably missed a few but if you don't think our fan base are absolute negative wankers then you are deluded. I've saved the best till last, Eddie Howe, needs sacked. Unbelievable! Yet believable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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