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9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I've never known that to be an American convention like. Newcastle United is a singular proper noun.

 

 

 

I am not a language expert by any means but surely the word 'United' implies a collective? Newcastle Utd are sounds more correct to my ear than Newcastle Utd is.

 

At the bottom of every news article page on the official website it has the slogan "We Are United" for instance. (Of course the word WE preceded Are, so not the best example.  ;) )

 

Not even mentioning American conventions as I wouldn't know.

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8 minutes ago, Irish Magpie said:

I am not a language expert by any means but surely the word 'United' implies a collective? Newcastle Utd are sounds more correct to my ear than Newcastle Utd is.

 

At the bottom of every news article page on the official website it has the slogan "We Are United" for instance. (Of course the word WE preceded Are, so not the best example.  ;) )

 

Not even mentioning American conventions as I wouldn't know.

These things always end up going the way of popular usage (band names for example sound wrong used as singular nouns) so it wouldn't surprise me for things like football teams to end up as 'are' rather than 'is', but 'is' is definitely the correct usage. If you said 'the players of Newcastle United' or 'the fans...' then are would be right, but Newcastle United on its own is technically a singular proper noun.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

These things always end up going the way of popular usage (band names for example sound wrong used as singular nouns) so it wouldn't surprise me for things like football teams to end up as 'are' rather than 'is', but 'is' is definitely the correct usage. If you said 'the players of Newcastle United' or 'the fans...' then are would be right, but Newcastle United on its own is technically a singular proper noun.

 

 

 


Technically yes, but I’m pretty sure that the convention historically and colloquially is for the English to say “are” and Americans to say “is”. As to whether “is” is becoming more prevalent in British media? No idea.

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8 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

These things always end up going the way of popular usage (band names for example sound wrong used as singular nouns) so it wouldn't surprise me for things like football teams to end up as 'are' rather than 'is', but 'is' is definitely the correct usage. If you said 'the players of Newcastle United' or 'the fans...' then are would be right, but Newcastle United on its own is technically a singular proper noun.

 

 

 

I believe both are correct because we can treat it as a plural noun, like people, ‘group’ or bands. It’s definitely a Brit - American thing. It’s not normal for a Brit to say ‘Newcastle is’. Similarly Americans do treat bands as singular - an American would typically say ‘Oasis is…’.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Deuce said:

“Amortisation”

 

the word, not the concept.

 

 

 


Feeling like you need basic accountancy skills to get on understanding football is 100% a negative development.

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6 minutes ago, Disco said:


Feeling like you need basic accountancy skills to get on understanding football is 100% a negative development.


The information asymmetry between what the club knows and what we know re: finances is as wide as the Grand Canyon and there’s nothing we can do about it anyway. Lads on here in tears trying to number crunch our transfer dealings. :lol: 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Deuce said:


The information asymmetry between what the club knows and what we know re: finances is as wide as the Grand Canyon and there’s nothing we can do about it anyway. Lads on here in tears trying to number crunch our transfer dealings. :lol: 

 

 

 


:lol:

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On 15/07/2023 at 10:51, Irish Magpie said:

I am not a language expert by any means but surely the word 'United' implies a collective? Newcastle Utd are sounds more correct to my ear than Newcastle Utd is.

 

At the bottom of every news article page on the official website it has the slogan "We Are United" for instance. (Of course the word WE preceded Are, so not the best example.  ;) )

 

Not even mentioning American conventions as I wouldn't know.

 

The singular is common in America. New York Mets is a terrible baseball team. 

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23 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

The singular is common in America. New York Mets is a terrible baseball team. 


Feel like the opposite is true. “The Mets are white hot dogshit” this season. 
 

But “the team/club is”

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59 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

The singular is common in America. New York Mets is a terrible baseball team. 


That can’t be true. When you call a hotline, they don’t say “we is experiencing performance outage in your area” they’d say “we are experiencing performance outage in your area”. 
 

Or “The New York Mets are exploring coaching options at this current moment”. I’ve never seen this “is” you speak of. 

 

 

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On 19/07/2023 at 17:46, GEFAFWISP said:

All this "baller" shite.

Aye, what the fuck is that exactly? You add FOOT and they become 'footballer', which applies to most players bar Ali dia 

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On 19/07/2023 at 17:46, GEFAFWISP said:

All this "baller" shite.

 

Maybe those using it are fans of Skee Low? 

 

I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
And a six-four Impala

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Seeing Sergio Ramos being talked about as one of the best defenders of all time. Good defender obviously but shouldn’t be mentioned as an all time goat. Same with Puyol too, imo. Brilliant defender but not a goat.

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1 hour ago, Rafalove said:

Seeing Sergio Ramos being talked about as one of the best defenders of all time. Good defender obviously but shouldn’t be mentioned as an all time goat. Same with Puyol too, imo. Brilliant defender but not a goat.

Oof - that’s a big call :)

 

I think they’re up there tbh.  Certainly in my lifetime.  

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They're absolutely greats imo. Probably not in the best XI in my lifetime but only because the bar is incredibly high. Definitely wouldn't complain if others had them in theirs like, they were class.

 

 

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See i would put the like a of Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Ferdinand, Terry, Cannavaro, Vidic and maybe a few others relatively far ahead of them.

 

 

It annoys me because I think people are putting Ramos in their team because of the trophies he has won, rather than his actual ability.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

See i would put the like a of Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Ferdinand, Terry, Cannavaro, Vidic and maybe a few others relatively far ahead of them.

 

 

It annoys me because I think people are putting Ramos in their team because of the trophies he has won, rather than his actual ability.

 

 

 

 

Ramos also had that unquantifiable leadership by example ability. Outstanding player - not that im suggesting he should be up there with the greats though.

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People who wank on about woodgate when he admitted he never want to come and slagged the club off. 

37 games and people hail him as the best thing since sliced bread despite making Michael Owen look punctual 

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1 minute ago, Pancrate1892 said:

People who wank on about woodgate when he admitted he never want to come and slagged the club off. 

37 games and people hail him as the best thing since sliced bread despite making Michael Owen look punctual 


where’s this from?

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He said that he didn't want to leave Leeds but that was mainly due to him coming through their ranks and loving his team mates there. He's also since said that leaving Newcastle was a tough choice and that Real Madrid were the only club he'd have left for. Both views completely fair in my eyes and still the best defender I've seen play for us. 

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