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As I’ve said before if they built at the arena a good idea would be to put boats on from the little marina next to the Tyne Bridge. Also sling a car park on the other side of the river in Teams for the excuse to build a new bridge.

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7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The arena is roughly the same distance from the city centre as SJP

 

I disagree, personally. Obviously there is semantics of where you say is the 'centre' but SJP is closer to the traditional urban centre of Grainger Town/Monument while that area is further away and definitely feels more peripheral. Obviously redeveloping it as has been intended for years naturally draws it closer to the city by expanding westwards down the river. But that is part of my reservations. Any new development there will feel a modern extension of the city in regenerating old industrial land - while SJP feels right in the heart of the historic core because it actually is. This is personal preference to what I like about football stadia - and my natural apprehension to any new build.

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11 minutes ago, OpenC said:

 

Are there many precedents for building stadia in that sort of area and the 'have to redevelop the whole area' thing actually coming to pass? I don't actually know. How did it work out at Sunlun, though?

 

I'm not arsed about the away fan experience one little bit :lol:

Well that’s the thing. Sunderland’s stadium never got that development, and is only getting it now. So for 30 years it has been described as a generic flat pack stadium, in a shit area.

 

We would want better than that, and I’m not just on about for away fans, I’m on about the home fans as well. Would you want to be going to your turnstile opposite Arena car wash?

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I think if they decide on a new stadium, it would be a very lucky escape to get the arena site. So many worse possibilities. 
 

The way the train passes the Emirates is really cool, so that would be nice too. 
 

Obviously would prefer to stay put but being able to build a stadium without closing the existing one must be pretty attractive. 

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That area down by the arena is grim - you can’t wait to get away from it if you ever go to an event at the arena.  No amount of shiny new buildings I suspect would make me want to spend time there.  I can’t say I ever fancy a walk around e.g . the redeveloped brewery/science city area and you could tell me there is a great bar or coffee place there and I wouldn’t bother as it’s soulless. 

 

Hoping and expecting expansion in some way and that we avoid joining the list of clubs who have left their historic ground for a stadium.

 

I went to Old Trafford for the England match a few months ago, had never been there before but you could feel the history of the ground(which I would add is worse in a whole host of ways then current SJP).  Conversely when went to Wembley it felt like the Metro Centre.

 

Appreciate I may be in a minority but I am passionately, unconditionally against leaving SJP.

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6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Not sure what being closer to Eldon Square means in terms of a matchday experience. 


It’s close to the cities two busiest local bus stations, and is close to 2 of the busiest city centre Metro stations.

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Having listened to Eales on the radio on Thursday, and watched the first episode of the Amazon documentary, I'm fairly sure that they have no plans to relocate away from the current area of the city centre. Eales was waxing lyrical about the cathedral on the hill, and I think they do truly place a lot of significance on that prime location, so I think they will try everything they can to get 65k out of the current footprint. If that's not possible then they may have a Leazes Park contingency plan. I just don't see the Arena site happening, and I'm less sure that I'd want it anymore tbh.

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53 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The arena is roughly the same distance from the city centre as SJP

From the Civic Centre to the Swing Bridge and Plummer Tower to the Discovery Museum, I guess the geographical centre of Newcastle would be Bigg Market/Grainger Street. 

On that basis, St.James's Park is probably abiut a 2 minute walk closer to the centre than the Arena.

The Arena site 'feels' a lot more remote because it's undeveloped/underdeveloped.

A stadium with football campus,  infrastructural enhancements and landacaping, would transform the local economy and change people's perception of that area entirely.

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28 minutes ago, TomYam said:

From the Civic Centre to the Swing Bridge and Plummer Tower to the Discovery Museum, I guess the geographical centre of Newcastle would be Bigg Market/Grainger Street. 

On that basis, St.James's Park is probably abiut a 2 minute walk closer to the centre than the Arena.

The Arena site 'feels' a lot more remote because it's undeveloped/underdeveloped.

A stadium with football campus,  infrastructural enhancements and landacaping, would transform the local economy and change people's perception of that area entirely.

 

St James' Park is in the City Centre, whereas Newcastle Arena is "on the edge" of the City Centre and feels more remote and more like it is actually outside of the city centre for the reason TomYam mentioned.

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1 hour ago, Wandy said:

Having listened to Eales on the radio on Thursday, and watched the first episode of the Amazon documentary, I'm fairly sure that they have no plans to relocate away from the current area of the city centre. Eales was waxing lyrical about the cathedral on the hill, and I think they do truly place a lot of significance on that prime location, so I think they will try everything they can to get 65k out of the current footprint. If that's not possible then they may have a Leazes Park contingency plan. I just don't see the Arena site happening, and I'm less sure that I'd want it anymore tbh.

 

Could dump 500ft of rubble on the site then build the stadium on top.

 

Might need some large escalators though...

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