mrmojorisin75 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 i meant something else when i wrote that, of course if we're successful and such we could easily fill a bigger stadium, guess what i meant was forget it under ashley and given the hassle/cost factor it'd be quite the risk for us to be looking at it at all imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 £300m is it's initial cost apparently. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-39356244 Done properly up here, we could boost the local workforce as well as create hundreds, if not thousands of short to long term jobs. Zero ambition to do so. Barely willing to keep SJP looking decent. not sure if that is serious, but Goodison is a shithole, (sorry Everton fans I know it will have emotional attachment) way past it's sell by date and not fit for their purpose any longer. St.James' is a wonderful stadium with arguably the best location in England. Why would any sane person want to move from there ? Because our beloved owner has now taken action to ensure that we can never expand it if and when a more ambitious owner takes over...and sentiment cannot rule over modern football priorities. We may not like it, but a move away from SJP is now the ONLY way the club can ever fulfil its support potential and remain one of the Top 5 supported clubs in England. We were second only to Man U before Arsenal moved to the Emirates in support capacity...now we are falling further and further behind other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 The proposals do not prevent us from expanding SJP. It says this on the planning application, it has been covered in a press article, and I have spoken to the developers myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Cant ever see us needing a bigger capacity than we have. To ever get back to top 6 , thus back in the big time, we need to first get out of the Champo then 3-4 years of stability IF we stay up .We need to spend fortunes next season just to stay up.Zillions gets you up the table unless we have a freak Pardew 5th season. 52,000 is right for now and many a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Cant ever see us needing a bigger capacity than we have. To ever get back to top 6 , thus back in the big time, we need to first get out of the Champo then 3-4 years of stability IF we stay up .We need to spend fortunes next season just to stay up.Zillions gets you up the table unless we have a freak Pardew 5th season. 52,000 is right for now and many a year. If we were successful we could easily fill a bigger ground. We average 51,000 in the second tier. A few years like we had under Robson and demand would be through the roof. Even if that is unlikely at the minute the opportunity to extend the ground should be there in case. We would be trapped in a weird kind of way should that opportunity not be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 We are selling out every week in the Championship I see no reason why we cant fill another 8000 seats with an extension to the Gallowgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Would prefer us to improve the atmosphere first to be honest before any considerations of stadium expansion. Means nothing if it's dead quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Cant ever see us needing a bigger capacity than we have. To ever get back to top 6 , thus back in the big time, we need to first get out of the Champo then 3-4 years of stability IF we stay up .We need to spend fortunes next season just to stay up.Zillions gets you up the table unless we have a freak Pardew 5th season. 52,000 is right for now and many a year. We are averaging over 51,000 in the Championship and despite us being top of the league the football at home has been largely uninspiring. A reasonably successful NUFC in the Premier League, under Rafa Benitez is certainly capable of far higher crowds than the current 52k capacity allows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Would prefer us to improve the atmosphere first to be honest before any considerations of stadium expansion. Means nothing if it's dead quiet. The Etihad questions this theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 No point expanding the stadium if you continue to buy players who can't perform on the big stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 No point in extending the stadium if the owner has absolutely zero interest in competing at the top end of the prem league. (If we go up). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Pointless even talking about. There's absolutely no way the club will cough up the money for an expansion when Ashley is here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Pointless even talking about. There's absolutely no way the club will cough up the money for an expansion when Ashley is here. Yep. We are ambitionless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Pointless even talking about. There's absolutely no way the club will cough up the money for an expansion when Ashley is here. Yep. We are ambitionless. http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/5756cf801200005b0289598a.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Pointless even talking about. There's absolutely no way the club will cough up the money for an expansion when Ashley is here. Yep. We are ambitionless. http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/5756cf801200005b0289598a.gif Very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Ashley selling up will be the equivalent of Keegan coming in that it will increase the amount of people who will want to see us. A fair few thousand on a boycott would easily be enticed back by decent football and some ambition on offer. A 70,000 ground would still be too small and some need to get away from the mentality that Ashley, Pardew and co instilled because we are an untapped potential. Like an oil well just waiting for the right moment to blow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". I can't recall us doing that?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". I can't recall us doing that?! Just googled it, and here's the Chronic announcement on it... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/united-plan-a-60000-ground-1490092 Announced by Freddie Shepherd, who of course was ousted just a few month later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". I can't recall us doing that?! I think it was all part of Shepherd's casino plan which would have paid for it. Then Hall sold the club when the poor bastard was in hospital. Mates eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". I can't recall us doing that?! Just googled it, and here's the Chronic announcement on it... http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/united-plan-a-60000-ground-1490092 Announced by Freddie Shepherd, who of course was ousted just a few month later. Even the article pays reference to apartments being built which are separate to the Gallowgate extension so it looks like it can still happen although it looks like Ashley has used half the idea for his benefit rather than the footballing ambition side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just been reading the Man City match report on .com from this day in 2007. Seems like an announcement was made back then about expanding to 60,000. "And the nonsense continued even after this defeat with the unbelievable announcement that St. James' Park is to be expanded to 60,000, a matter of days ahead of what will surely be the least enthusiastic season ticket renewal in recent history". I can't recall us doing that?! I think it was all part of Shepherd's casino plan which would have paid for it. Then Hall sold the club when the poor b****** was in hospital. Mates eh? Think i remember reading at the time that it was mansion the group that used to sponsor spurs were looking for a sponsorship deal with us which included them building a casino inside the ground i even recall hearing that they were gonna sponsor the ground too ... "Mansion at at James's i think it was gonna be called lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Ashley selling up will be the equivalent of Keegan coming in that it will increase the amount of people who will want to see us. A fair few thousand on a boycott would easily be enticed back by decent football and some ambition on offer. A 70,000 ground would still be too small and some need to get away from the mentality that Ashley, Pardew and co instilled because we are an untapped potential. Like an oil well just waiting for the right moment to blow. It's a mute point, the fact is that most of us who were around to live and breathe the magic of the Keegan era are now in our late 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's +... we're dying off year by year so that number will constantly dwindle. The younger fan have had nothing but full on depression associated with this club for the best part of 15 years, it's all they know. The magic we experienced is no more than a 2 minute Youtube montage to them. Ashley leaving won't attract new people because these younger supporters don't know any different. They associate NUFC with a toxic atmosphere and although Rafa being here is going some way reversing it, it's gonna take an equal amount of time and a whole new era that we can't even fathom right now before this club gets another drastic boost like it did back in the 90's. Unfortunately for some of us, we may never see this happen in our lifetime and for a lot of others, life will simply get in the way so that we aren't really paying all that much attention any more. I just wanna see us compete against the best teams with a good style of football and have another go at the league. Crowd sizes should be left to those who wanna bicker with Mackems about who the bigger club is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Fuck, wish people would stop dying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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