Kid Icarus Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) I don't see how it's different tbh, the whole argument at the time about the club not benefitting financially from the name change was as an aside to the much bigger, more popular argument about the name being sacred. The only thing I disagree with TheGuv on there is being surprised, because it's clear everything has its price. May as well start putting product placement in the 'what is a club in any case...' quote tbh. Edited October 22, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, kisearch said: I don't see how it's different tbh, the whole argument at the time about the club not benefitting financially from the name change was as an aside to the much bigger, more popular argument about the name being sacred. The only thing I disagree with TheGuv about is being surprised, because it's clear everything has its price. It’s clearly very different. Ashley changed the name to benefit himself it was the sole goal. The current owners are consulting the fan basis firstly and the beneficiary would be the club as a whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Saudia @ St James Park ”where the skies the limit” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: It’s clearly very different. Ashley changed the name to benefit himself it was the sole goal. The current owners are consulting the fan basis firstly and the beneficiary would be the club as a whole. I also think the new owners know how precious the name is and what it means to the fan base, and will treat it sensitively during up and coming discussions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: It’s clearly very different. Ashley changed the name to benefit himself it was the sole goal. The current owners are consulting the fan basis firstly and the beneficiary would be the club as a whole. I get that those things are different, what I'm saying is that the overwhelming argument and outrage at the time was about the name being sacred and in that sense this should be no different, but it is because everything has its price. Edited October 22, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Encorporate our name with the new and I will be fine with it. If all our moves are being scrutinised then you would expect us to have to adhere to FFP if we get the money and its reinvested I will stomach it. More than likely if they do go with a hyphenated name we will all still use SJP anyway but helps the balance sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: I'd prefer no name change. Or at least let us have good footy at "SJP" for a while. Like, let's not jump straight into this naming shite...they know it's a touchy subject. Thing is without these sponsorship deals you probably won’t have “good footy’ at SJP as they massively need to increase revenue streams to allow spending through FFP. That’s the fact of the matter in the current market. We are already massively behind other clubs revenue streams due to Ashley. The new owners know exactly that it will be a touchy subject, but are still putting it out on the table (it seems) at an early stage, they’re not going to do that on a whim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Saudia @ St James Park ”where the skies the limit” "Unless you're a pigeon, in which case the roof is the limit" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicane said: "Unless you're a pigeon, in which case the roof is the limit" oh yes that pigeon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, kisearch said: That's what Ashley did though. yeah but aramco st james isnt as bad as "sports direct arena @st james park". its how you do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, huss9 said: yeah but aramco st james isnt as bad as "sports direct arena @st james park". its how you do it. I think it is tbh, arguably worse considering the connection. But I get why you think differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I'm a bit uneasy but I'll wait and see what they suggest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 The idea that "everyone will still call it St James' Park" is completely deluded imo. Yes you will, and I will and people in Newcastle will, but the wider public won't. Kids in ten years time won't even know the name. These things stick really easily. If you put into Twitter the phrase "Call it Eastlands" you will see Man City fans from 2011 who were absolutely adamant that nobody would ever actually refer to it as The Etihad. Nobody ever believes that advertising actually works. Newsflash: it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 City’s stadium deal is like £20m a year I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 What's the story behind the pigeon, like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kanji said: City’s stadium deal is like £20m a year I believe. The way transfer fees are going I can't even see that being worth it. Say we also get £20mil a year and we save it all up for the next four or five years we might be able to get a striker out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just get them to change one of their existing company’s to St James. simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Papavasiliou said: The way transfer fees are going I can't even see that being worth it. Say we also get £20mil a year and we save it all up for the next four or five years we might be able to get a striker out of it. True but when you add in a shirt sponsor on par with the top 6 at say 30-50m a year it does start becoming quite impactful. Edited October 22, 2021 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, toon25 said: What's the story behind the pigeon, like? They’re renaming him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I think you just call it "St James Park with XXX" I'd be fine with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Papavasiliou said: The way transfer fees are going I can't even see that being worth it. Say we also get £20mil a year and we save it all up for the next four or five years we might be able to get a striker out of it. It’s not the 20 mill per year to spend on a player. It’s the increased revenue streams which allow you via FFP to spend 100 million on one player in one year not five years. PIF can outspend any club on transfer fees, but they need revenue streams via commercial and sponsorship deals to increase massively to be able to get round FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, christ said: They’re renaming him. The Saudi Seagull? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: The Saudi Seagull? Saudia-gull Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said: Saudia-gull Aramco Avocet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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