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3 minutes ago, vic said:

 

Scandalous? Ffs. [emoji38]

I'm sure the "millions of pounds of taxpayers' money" spent on making it look like an oasis for wildlife (or the odd pidgeon/cow) was hard spent, but it would be nice to wait for the actual plans before the mackems and well meaning wetwipes start throwing petitions about.

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I'm a massive advocate for green spaces being retained/created in city centres.  But the simple fact is that to get this passed, it would be an exchange as we've already talked at length about.  The greenspace and subsequent maintenance would be down to the club to present to the council to get the agreement to build.   The new park would take some time to establish - trees/hedgerows, but lets not kid the financial element of having a bigger stadium and more revenue into the city, let alone the revamped, nicer greenspace than Leazes currently is.  

 

Entirely daft protesting to the council about something which hasn't been announced, and public surveys, which require no real vetting or quantification, are a moot point.  They also require a significant amount of signatures for anyone to even think about caring, not some mackems and a few people pissing their pants. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Poor advice. Absolute amateur hour sending it to the council before any plans have been presented. 

Harms their cause if anything. It just shows that they're going to protest against it regardless, rather than waiting to see what the proposal is, assessing the potential impact and challenging it accordingly. 

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5 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

I'm a massive advocate for green spaces being retained/created in city centres.  But the simple fact is that to get this passed, it would be an exchange as we've already talked at length about.  The greenspace and subsequent maintenance would be down to the club to present to the council to get the agreement to build.   The new park would take some time to establish - trees/hedgerows, but lets not kid the financial element of having a bigger stadium and more revenue into the city, let alone the revamped, nicer greenspace than Leazes currently is.  

 

Entirely daft protesting to the council about something which hasn't been announced, and public surveys, which require no real vetting or quantification, are a moot point.  They also require a significant amount of signatures for anyone to even think about caring, not some mackems and a few people pissing their pants. 

 

 

 

Yep, I agree. I think if the club establish a way of meaningfully looking after the city parks it could be a win-win. Job creation, better parks, less pressure on the council. Alongside creating new green space, wherever possible. 

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6 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

Harms their cause if anything. It just shows that they're going to protest against it regardless, rather than waiting to see what the proposal is, assessing the potential impact and challenging it accordingly. 

I’m sure someone can dig out that exact phrase on the sad cunts message board and the hyperlinks from it to the petition. Similar from Twitter accounts. Unlike that Dotty shitbag and her Sunderland sourced signatures from 1995, there’s a whole audit trail of people with shite agendas tracing straight back to them.
 

 

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29 minutes ago, Checko said:

On the other hand Leazes Park lost its green flag status and has been described by a volunteer of friends of leazes park as 'damaged beyond repair'

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl090xvegno

 

If this is the case then surely it would help any application for building. Especially if the plans involve (which they should) refreshing and creating new green space. 

 

The thing I really notice about Newcastle is how little green space is really accessible in the city centre. Less than most parts of London I would say. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

If this is the case then surely it would help any application for building. Especially if the plans involve (which they should) refreshing and creating new green space. 

 

The thing I really notice about Newcastle is how little green space is really accessible in the city centre. Less than most parts of London I would say. 

 

 

 

The Town Moor says hi!

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Purely guesswork but the planning permission will be submitted when the club make a statement on it, otherwise it would be on the Newcastle planning portal with all related documents without any prior notification to the public. 

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4 minutes ago, Bondedcrown said:

The Town Moor says hi!

 

I wouldn't consider it in the city centre really, most people aren't going to walk to the town moor for a quick lunch break etc. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I wouldn't consider it in the city centre really, most people aren't going to walk to the town moor for a quick lunch break etc. 

 

 

 

 

Goth square, now Smack Head square as a bit grass

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If the ground was built on leazers you can imagine there would soon be bars, restaurants, bookies, entertainment pop up over the years stretching the center of town out that way.

 

Even if it was somewhere further you would still need somewhere for fans to gather before or after the games.

 

Plus a new ground need to make sure it has more income being generated outside of match days.

 

 

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If the current ground location becomes a Wembley type avenue with parkland and amenities each side, with the listed Leazes Terrace overlooking, I can't see how that's not anything but a vast improvement on the existing cityscape. Other than parkrun, the end of Leazes Park for the new stadium doesn't offer much at all.

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I wouldn't consider it in the city centre really, most people aren't going to walk to the town moor for a quick lunch break etc. 

 

 

 

You're joking of course? Exhibition park?

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13 minutes ago, Bondedcrown said:

You're joking of course? Exhibition park?

 

It's still on the edge of the city centre.

 

The northern English cities just don't have meaningful green spaces in their urban centres in my experience. Leeds and Manchester in particular are God awful concrete jungles imo.

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