David Edgar Posted Sunday at 11:03 Share Posted Sunday at 11:03 Announcement within 6 weeks according to the tour host. And he keeps talking about what a new stadium might be like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 11:07 Share Posted Sunday at 11:07 It's gonna be a new stadium - only viable option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Sunday at 11:13 Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 Is yesterday really any sort of yardstick re stadium capacity? I wonder how many there wouldn't entertain the thought of going to a game before or since yesterday. I wasn't there so maybe I'm talking shit but it appeared as much/even more about pride in a city and Geordie identity (and to 'be there') than just the football team. I certainly know of a few who were there to revel in it for those reasons. And good for them, it looked magical. Don't get me wrong, the team is the catalyst, and as Newcastle fans we should take immense pride in how Howe et al brought a population together like that. But 100k folks on the Town Moor doesn't mean we should have a 100k capacity stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Sunday at 11:24 Share Posted Sunday at 11:24 Other than worrying about what other people think about "empty seats" (I'm not bothered personally), why wouldn't we want an 80k stadium if you could sell out for a large chunk of games, get 63-65k for a low key game, and end up with an average of about 73-74k per game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Sunday at 11:27 Share Posted Sunday at 11:27 Of course it is, how else would you gauge capacity, point taken that there would be many yesterday caught up in the celebrations just like any event, Hypothetically though, it comes down to economics, if it was made financially affordable for all you'd get 100k wanting to go, you've said you're not from the area, not sure if you have a season ticket? But let's say you don't a season ticket is now available to you and you could afford a season ticket and travel, let's assume all circumstances fit no Weekend work etc, you know you'd make that happen in your life. I mean they made 1000 tickets available a while back, didn't 30k apply, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 11:32 Share Posted Sunday at 11:32 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Other than worrying about what other people think about "empty seats" (I'm not bothered personally), why wouldn't we want an 80k stadium if you could sell out for a large chunk of games, get 63-65k for a low key game, and end up with an average of about 73-74k per game? It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted Sunday at 11:33 Share Posted Sunday at 11:33 Just now, duo said: It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. 70k for me. But leave scope to extend to 80k and we’ll be grand. 65k just feels that touch too low: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Sunday at 11:36 Share Posted Sunday at 11:36 3 minutes ago, duo said: It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. I'm not too sure. I reckon they'd take 63k in a League Cup Third Round tie home to Preston if they're getting upper 70k to 80k for the big matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted Sunday at 12:18 Share Posted Sunday at 12:18 Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 12:23 Share Posted Sunday at 12:23 5 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. There will be a permanent version with a couple of hotel built into in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 12:26 Share Posted Sunday at 12:26 47 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I'm not too sure. I reckon they'd take 63k in a League Cup Third Round tie home to Preston if they're getting upper 70k to 80k for the big matches. In my opinion, cup games shouldn’t be factored into income ahead of the season. If we get home draws, we should price it as low as possible. Get the kids and families in. £10 a ticket, they’ll end up spending money for food and drink, and in the club shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Sunday at 13:38 Share Posted Sunday at 13:38 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stifler said: In my opinion, cup games shouldn’t be factored into income ahead of the season. If we get home draws, we should price it as low as possible. Get the kids and families in. £10 a ticket, they’ll end up spending money for food and drink, and in the club shop. Aren't cup ticket prices fixed? Edited Sunday at 13:38 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted Sunday at 16:32 Share Posted Sunday at 16:32 I think the price has to be agreed by both teams if it's the same as it is in Scotland due to the money being shared equally. So a tenner a ticket is a definite no go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 16:44 Share Posted Sunday at 16:44 10 minutes ago, MagPar said: I think the price has to be agreed by both teams if it's the same as it is in Scotland due to the money being shared equally. So a tenner a ticket is a definite no go. It would be if you get a lower league team and they can get 70k people in. That’s £280k that they would get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Sunday at 17:12 Share Posted Sunday at 17:12 4 hours ago, Fenham Mag said: Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. Another thing had I had any possible consultation on id of advised to build much bigger Whether their hands were tied (?) I don’t know but I’d suspect they’d eventually build a new one and I’d hope it be at least 50% bigger if not 100% Giant electronic Pints for PSR display which changes after every transaction £ and displays previous daily record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Sunday at 17:51 Share Posted Sunday at 17:51 The Stack will be last watering hole before the beautiful parkland walk up to the new castle. Will do a roaring business in take- outs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted Sunday at 18:10 Share Posted Sunday at 18:10 6 hours ago, David Edgar said: Announcement within 6 weeks according to the tour host. And he keeps talking about what a new stadium might be like... 6 hours ago, duo said: It's gonna be a new stadium - only viable option. It'll be like the warm spreading feeling you get when the sun breaks through the grey clouds and touches you, down there. Like hot buttered toast on a veranda on a car, cantering along the Amalfi coast dreaming of Spennymoor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Sunday at 18:17 Share Posted Sunday at 18:17 Has it gone to the Saudi overlords for approval and that’s the wait? Given the cost I guess it’s squeaky bum time for them, are they ready to drop serious cash, knowing even in the best case it won’t start to generate a return for 5 years. Plus a training ground too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Sunday at 18:30 Share Posted Sunday at 18:30 I could well be in the minority here but I think we'd fill 70k for any competitive fixture we played. The lowest demand I can imagine would be a L3 team up here in he LC on a Tuesday night but even that would eventually sell out, with sensibly priced tickets, imo. How often would that happen though? Once every couple of years? Any domestic fixture - sold out, the overwhelming majority of European fixtures - sold out. The demand to see this team is already through the roof and there are thousands of fans who don't even bother to try and get tickets now as the demand is already sky high. Now we've won the first one we're only going to get bigger, better and attract more and more fans from other countries Build it once, make it huge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted Sunday at 18:40 Share Posted Sunday at 18:40 8 hours ago, Fenham Mag said: Yesterday was a free event on a Saturday, I really can’t see us getting much more than 65k on weekday games against certain teams. Yes, they’d easily get 15,000-20k more season ticket holders but it would attract so many ticket touts and we’ll become a tourist attraction. I rather a full stadium of the right type of fan than just sheer numbers. We could have sold 65k v Wimbledon for a midweek early round League Cup match at 1 weeks notice man. Loads got rejected in the ballot. A 65k stadium would have been full for every game this season, and this is just the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Sunday at 18:45 Share Posted Sunday at 18:45 (edited) I’d rather have it slightly empty for those rare very unattractive games than have tens of thousands locked out for the majority of games during the season Why base capacity on the worst case scenario that might happen once or twice a season, that’s just fucking daft Edited Sunday at 18:52 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Sunday at 18:56 Share Posted Sunday at 18:56 The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Sunday at 19:00 Share Posted Sunday at 19:00 1 minute ago, SteV said: The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. I don't disagree but I think that's cancelled out by the people who would love to go but currently don't bother with the ballot as the prospect of an 80% failure isn't worth my time or effort. The demand to see this team is huge, the opposition is largely irrelevant. Hundreds of thousands of people just want to see NUFC play football against someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted Sunday at 19:05 Share Posted Sunday at 19:05 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SteV said: The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. If we build a new stadium with significantly increased capacity and they still insist on having daft fucking ballots then they can get to fuck I’ll go and watch the speedway in Byker instead Edited Sunday at 19:05 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted Sunday at 19:07 Share Posted Sunday at 19:07 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: If we build a new stadium with significantly increased capacity and they still insist on having daft fucking ballots then they can get to fuck I’ll go and watch the speedway in Byker instead Good luck with that. They went bust 2 years ago and no longer exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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