duo Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Other than worrying about what other people think about "empty seats" (I'm not bothered personally), why wouldn't we want an 80k stadium if you could sell out for a large chunk of games, get 63-65k for a low key game, and end up with an average of about 73-74k per game? It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Just now, duo said: It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. 70k for me. But leave scope to extend to 80k and we’ll be grand. 65k just feels that touch too low: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, duo said: It's the empty seats - PIF will not want to spend billions to have that. 70k is probably the sweet spot - the big cash injection will come from corporate tickets. I'm not too sure. I reckon they'd take 63k in a League Cup Third Round tie home to Preston if they're getting upper 70k to 80k for the big matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 5 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. There will be a permanent version with a couple of hotel built into in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 47 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I'm not too sure. I reckon they'd take 63k in a League Cup Third Round tie home to Preston if they're getting upper 70k to 80k for the big matches. In my opinion, cup games shouldn’t be factored into income ahead of the season. If we get home draws, we should price it as low as possible. Get the kids and families in. £10 a ticket, they’ll end up spending money for food and drink, and in the club shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stifler said: In my opinion, cup games shouldn’t be factored into income ahead of the season. If we get home draws, we should price it as low as possible. Get the kids and families in. £10 a ticket, they’ll end up spending money for food and drink, and in the club shop. Aren't cup ticket prices fixed? Edited March 30 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I think the price has to be agreed by both teams if it's the same as it is in Scotland due to the money being shared equally. So a tenner a ticket is a definite no go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 10 minutes ago, MagPar said: I think the price has to be agreed by both teams if it's the same as it is in Scotland due to the money being shared equally. So a tenner a ticket is a definite no go. It would be if you get a lower league team and they can get 70k people in. That’s £280k that they would get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, Fenham Mag said: Wonder if they’ll keep stack where it is. Another thing had I had any possible consultation on id of advised to build much bigger Whether their hands were tied (?) I don’t know but I’d suspect they’d eventually build a new one and I’d hope it be at least 50% bigger if not 100% Giant electronic Pints for PSR display which changes after every transaction £ and displays previous daily record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The Stack will be last watering hole before the beautiful parkland walk up to the new castle. Will do a roaring business in take- outs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 6 hours ago, David Edgar said: Announcement within 6 weeks according to the tour host. And he keeps talking about what a new stadium might be like... 6 hours ago, duo said: It's gonna be a new stadium - only viable option. It'll be like the warm spreading feeling you get when the sun breaks through the grey clouds and touches you, down there. Like hot buttered toast on a veranda on a car, cantering along the Amalfi coast dreaming of Spennymoor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Has it gone to the Saudi overlords for approval and that’s the wait? Given the cost I guess it’s squeaky bum time for them, are they ready to drop serious cash, knowing even in the best case it won’t start to generate a return for 5 years. Plus a training ground too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I could well be in the minority here but I think we'd fill 70k for any competitive fixture we played. The lowest demand I can imagine would be a L3 team up here in he LC on a Tuesday night but even that would eventually sell out, with sensibly priced tickets, imo. How often would that happen though? Once every couple of years? Any domestic fixture - sold out, the overwhelming majority of European fixtures - sold out. The demand to see this team is already through the roof and there are thousands of fans who don't even bother to try and get tickets now as the demand is already sky high. Now we've won the first one we're only going to get bigger, better and attract more and more fans from other countries Build it once, make it huge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Fenham Mag said: Yesterday was a free event on a Saturday, I really can’t see us getting much more than 65k on weekday games against certain teams. Yes, they’d easily get 15,000-20k more season ticket holders but it would attract so many ticket touts and we’ll become a tourist attraction. I rather a full stadium of the right type of fan than just sheer numbers. We could have sold 65k v Wimbledon for a midweek early round League Cup match at 1 weeks notice man. Loads got rejected in the ballot. A 65k stadium would have been full for every game this season, and this is just the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) I’d rather have it slightly empty for those rare very unattractive games than have tens of thousands locked out for the majority of games during the season Why base capacity on the worst case scenario that might happen once or twice a season, that’s just fucking daft Edited March 30 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, SteV said: The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. I don't disagree but I think that's cancelled out by the people who would love to go but currently don't bother with the ballot as the prospect of an 80% failure isn't worth my time or effort. The demand to see this team is huge, the opposition is largely irrelevant. Hundreds of thousands of people just want to see NUFC play football against someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SteV said: The reason they seem to want to err on the lower side of capacity, is because availability stifles demand. At the minute, you’ve got ballot success rate at something like 20%, probably less, which results in a lot of members applying for every single game, regardless of opposition, because they know how hard it is to get into any game. If you build a big mega, super-duper, monster stadium, that makes it a lot easier to win a ballot, the theory will be that demand will drop off because people can be more choosy about what to apply for because there isn’t overarching threat of never getting to a game. If we build a new stadium with significantly increased capacity and they still insist on having daft fucking ballots then they can get to fuck I’ll go and watch the speedway in Byker instead Edited March 30 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: If we build a new stadium with significantly increased capacity and they still insist on having daft fucking ballots then they can get to fuck I’ll go and watch the speedway in Byker instead Good luck with that. They went bust 2 years ago and no longer exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Are we sure it's not down to some infrastructure related issues like concerns of another 10k people getting to the ground from the police or something. Sounds a bit daft maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, midds said: I don't disagree but I think that's cancelled out by the people who would love to go but currently don't bother with the ballot as the prospect of an 80% failure isn't worth my time or effort. The demand to see this team is huge, the opposition is largely irrelevant. Hundreds of thousands of people just want to see NUFC play football against someone They do right now, I agree, but I think that’s a) because it’s so hard to get a ticket (outside of being clued up about resale) and getting a ticket for any game is a really big deal for many at present b) we’re on the upward part of the journey - we’ve won one (magical, magnificent) league cup, will the excitement and the buzz still be same for our fourth one, to go with our 3 league titles, 2 FA Cups, and a CL? Personally, I’m not opposed to them going bigger than ~65k, but I can at least see why they might be reluctant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 10 minutes ago, midds said: I don't disagree but I think that's cancelled out by the people who would love to go but currently don't bother with the ballot as the prospect of an 80% failure isn't worth my time or effort. The demand to see this team is huge, the opposition is largely irrelevant. Hundreds of thousands of people just want to see NUFC play football against someone Exactly this, met a 60+ aged woman down the boozer earlier who used to go all the time when tickets were easy to come by, said she’d only been able to get to one game in 2 years because she never wins the ballot and doesn’t know how to do resale She’s now given up on even applying for the ballot We won’t have a second date, but I found her insight interesting Edited March 30 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, SteV said: They do right now, I agree, but I think that’s a) because it’s so hard to get a ticket (outside of being clued up about resale) and getting a ticket for any game is a really big deal for many at present b) we’re on the upward part of the journey - we’ve won one (magical, magnificent) league cup, will the excitement and the buzz still be same for our fourth one, to go with our 3 league titles, 2 FA Cups, and a CL? Personally, I’m not opposed to them going bigger than ~65k, but I can at least see why they might be reluctant. Yep. It'll go exponentially ballistic mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Re the capacity, I don’t think that yesterday should be taken into consideration. Similarly, the long queues for the resale for Man United. We don’t have access to see how many people are applying in ballots, how many people are using the resale function, both in terms of selling and buying. For this reason, I’m going to trust that whatever the capacity is, it’ll be well worked out. If it is 65k, then I do hope that there is an option to increase down the line at not a large cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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