Fak Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 11 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Nothing is rising here anymore You can get pills for that these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 Just now, Fak said: You can get pills for that these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 If it turned out that Leazes Park on a sort of land swap deal, or the Town Moor were both viable options and they settled on tarting up SJP instead, and the way I see it I don't see how you can take SJP any higher than 61/62k and that wpuld include somehow managing to squeeze another 2k seats into the East Stand, then that would be a massive disappointment and really underwhelming. Also it would come nowhere near satisfying ticket demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 Disappointing, was looking forward to the genocide of the Leazes park rat community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 14 hours ago, Dokko said: Being extended rather than move seems to be doing the rounds today on whatsapp groups. Everyone with some kind of sketchy source. Strange cos I know someone in a company who has submitted bids on the requirements being 80k as well as redeveloping. Guess the WhatsApp group will know more. I'll let them know not to waste their time and expenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 1 hour ago, Stifler said: That’s a rebuild though and would require areas that can’t be used for periods of time, and possible stadium closures. It would also likely cost just as much as a new stadium and give us far less. I think the line they came out with a while ago is telling ‘They don’t want to write the cheque twice’. I agree the new stadium route should be the preferred option. The existing stadium needs so much work, if you had a shiny new part with modern facilities it will just highlight how poor the rubbish parts are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 40 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: If it turned out that Leazes Park on a sort of land swap deal, or the Town Moor were both viable options and they settled on tarting up SJP instead, and the way I see it I don't see how you can take SJP any higher than 61/62k and that wpuld include somehow managing to squeeze another 2k seats into the East Stand, then that would be a massive disappointment and really underwhelming. Also it would come nowhere near satisfying ticket demand. I can’t imagine there’s any chance of this happening. May as well just not do anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I can’t imagine there’s any chance of this happening. May as well just not do anything. You'd like to think not but they're narve taking their time on deciding! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 1 hour ago, Slim said: Strange cos I know someone in a company who has submitted bids on the requirements being 80k as well as redeveloping. Guess the WhatsApp group will know more. I'll let them know not to waste their time and expenses. With potential expansion to 88k. The sooner something is announced the better for everyone’s sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 1 hour ago, Slim said: Strange cos I know someone in a company who has submitted bids on the requirements being 80k as well as redeveloping. Guess the WhatsApp group will know more. I'll let them know not to waste their time and expenses. No need to get precious, darling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 32 minutes ago, Dokko said: No need to get precious, darling. Please stop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Slim said: Please stop Words you hear often? Edited October 18, 2025 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 No, but to be fair you have done me there 👍 Xxx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 23 minutes ago, Slim said: No, but to be fair you have done me there 👍 Xxx Why do you bother? You think I'm a prick, I think you're one as well. I never respond to anything you say or do, just let you craic on. I'd appreciate if you do me the same favour and we can both enjoy our time on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted October 18, 2025 Share Posted October 18, 2025 3 hours ago, Slim said: Strange cos I know someone in a company who has submitted bids on the requirements being 80k as well as redeveloping. Guess the WhatsApp group will know more. I'll let them know not to waste their time and expenses. It doesn’t work like that. Bids on what? There needs to be at minimum high level architectural drawings/plans before any company can be invited to tender. As far as I know they haven’t carried out any surveys and a report would also need to be made on impact to wildlife, although that may have already been carried out as part of that feasibility report. Some members on here might have more info on that. There’s so many external factors in deciding to move that need to be ironed out before they can make a decision. Once things are actually in motion nothing will be kept quiet as too many individuals/entities involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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astraguy Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 I'd love to see out revenue we get from St James compared to our rivals it must be insane and that's why we need a new ground to keep up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 11 minutes ago, astraguy said: I'd love to see out revenue we get from St James compared to our rivals it must be insane and that's why we need a new ground to keep up Spurs get something like triple our matchday revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 On 18/10/2025 at 14:30, Lucky said: It doesn’t work like that. Bids on what? There needs to be at minimum high level architectural drawings/plans before any company can be invited to tender. As far as I know they haven’t carried out any surveys and a report would also need to be made on impact to wildlife, although that may have already been carried out as part of that feasibility report. Some members on here might have more info on that. There’s so many external factors in deciding to move that need to be ironed out before they can make a decision. Once things are actually in motion nothing will be kept quiet as too many individuals/entities involved. In all fairness he’s been fairly consistent on this issue for a little while on this issue, and has shown evidence of credibility to some members on here before. From what I gather so far they’d need quotes of everyone involved in order to put together a good estimate for each option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 7 minutes ago, Stifler said: In all fairness he’s been fairly consistent on this issue for a little while on this issue, and has shown evidence of credibility to some members on here before. From what I gather so far they’d need quotes of everyone involved in order to put together a good estimate for each option. I work at the planning stages of large scale residential/commercial construction and when a tender goes in there’s always a specification of what the client wants. (Not just, gimme a price for an 80k seat stadium Bob) For example, this is the land available and where its situated (this is important as access (or restrictions) is a massive part of pre planning and can drastically increase the scope. We know there has been some discussions with the Freemen regarding a certain area. But nothing agreed as yet, so it’s very unlikely they’d be looking for indicative prices. They’ll know what their budget is and ask a developer to deliver what they want within that budget. When reviewing submissions, not always the cheapest quote is the successful bid. Developers will have a teams who just work on tenders which can include the cv’s of the personnel involved as well as examples of their previous similar projects. But we’re nowhere near developer stage yet. Once a site is acquired, they will engage with an architect. Who will list off any and all surveys required before a go ahead can be given. The club will decide after advice whether to go with “Build by Design” or “Design and Build” - in plain speak the first is an Architect designs it and then hands over to a developer. The second is an architect brought in and working with/by the developer at the project commences. This would be the work involved and then have to be reviewed and collated before any boots on the ground ever happens. Topographical Survey Boundary Survey / Title Survey Geotechnical / Ground Investigation Survey Contaminated Land Assessment (Phase 1 & 2) Hydrogeological & Hydrological Survey Arboricultural Survey Utilities & Services Survey Unexploded Ordnance (UXO) Survey Ecological Appraisal / Extended Phase 1 Habitat Survey Protected Species Surveys Tree & Hedgerow Impact Assessment Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Landscape & Visual Impact Assessment (LVIA) Noise & Vibration Impact Assessment Air Quality Assessment Microclimate & Wind Environment Study Light Pollution / Artificial Lighting Impact Assessment Carbon & Sustainability Assessment Archaeological & Heritage Impact Assessment Water Framework Directive Assessment Planning Policy Compliance Report Public Open Space / Loss of Amenity Assessment Socio-Economic Impact Assessment Transport Assessment & Travel Plan Parking Strategy / Event Access Management Plan Health Impact Assessment (HIA) Equality Impact Assessment (EqIA) Community Consultation & Statement of Community Involvement (SCI) Masterplanning / Urban Design Framework Concept Structural Engineering Study Stadium Bowl Acoustic Modelling Fire Strategy & Evacuation Simulation Crowd Dynamics / Safety Capacity Modelling Drainage Strategy & Sustainable Urban Drainage (SuDS) Design Energy Strategy / Building Services Feasibility Daylight / Sunlight Analysis Rights of Way & Access Survey Utilities Wayleave / Easement Audit Land Contamination Liability Assessment Insurance Risk Assessment / Construction Risk Register CDM Pre-Construction Information Public Safety & Emergency Services Consultation Reports Heritage Conservation Area Appraisal & Mitigation Strategy Parkland Re-Provision / Replacement Greenspace Strategy Townscape & Skyline View Corridor Study Public Realm & Landscape Integration Plan Cumulative Impact Assessment These are usually requested and sourced by an appointed design team: Lead Architect / Stadium Architect Project Manager Civil Engineer Structural Engineer Building Services Engineer Geotechnical Engineer Landscape Architect Acoustician Fire Engineer Access Consultant Sustainability Consultant Environmental Consultant Crowd Dynamics Consultant Safety Consultant Bowl Geometry Consultant Sports Lighting Designer Pitch / Turf Consultant Sports Venue Technology Consultant Security Consultant Counter-Terrorism Advisor Wayfinding Designer Signage Designer Façade Engineer Roof Specialist Engineer Planning Consultant Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Coordinator Transport Planner Traffic Engineer Ecologist Arboriculturist Heritage Consultant Noise & Vibration Consultant Air Quality Consultant Wind / Microclimate Specialist Flood Risk & Drainage Engineer Cost Consultant Quantity Surveyor Construction Manager Design & Build Contractor Health & Safety Consultant CDM Principal Designer Temporary Works Engineer Programme Scheduler Planner Client Representative Development Manager Commercial Advisor Retail Advisor Catering Consultant Hospitality Consultant Ticketing Specialist Access Control Specialist Broadcast Consultant Media Infrastructure Consultant Facilities Management Advisor Event Safety Officer Legal Advisor Property Solicitor Public Consultation Consultant Communications Consultant Stakeholder Engagement Lead Heritage & Conservation Officer Liaison Environmental Health Officer Liaison Transport Authority Liaison Police Liaison So as you can see, with that many people involved there is no way you’d be able to keep a lid on that, even with a non disclosure agreement. It would be all over the place. Realistically, I believe the club when they say no decision has been made yet, I’d say land is being negotiated with the freemen and once there’s an agreement in principal they’ll engage with an Architect and then a wider design team and at that point the surveys will commence. This is a long one but it’s comprehensive and will hopefully not piss on anyone’s chips but just give a dose of reality to where this one probably sits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 Can I apply for the Wind Specialist role please, I bought some Brown Ale Geordie Bangers from the Grainger market yesterday, I've ate the lot today and I'm in rare old form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 6 hours ago, astraguy said: I'd love to see out revenue we get from St James compared to our rivals it must be insane and that's why we need a new ground to keep up The figures on this article look right - just multiply by the number of games to get a rough total. We usually sit at around £35-40m matchday revenue - Spurs took in about £118m last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: The figures on this article look right - just multiply by the number of games to get a rough total. We usually sit at around £35-40m matchday revenue - Spurs took in about £118m last year. Our matchday revenue was £50.1m in 23/24. https://swissramble.substack.com/p/newcastle-united-finances-202324 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 19, 2025 Share Posted October 19, 2025 54 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Our matchday revenue was £50.1m in 23/24. https://swissramble.substack.com/p/newcastle-united-finances-202324 It’ll be around that again with CL football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted October 20, 2025 Share Posted October 20, 2025 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’ll be around that again with CL football It'll be higher, ST and match ticket prices are a chunk higher. Also another CL game guaranteed at minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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