St James' Park

[1964]

38 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

You’d think that a new Gallowgate would have a new Shearer’s style bar. Imagine all the land remaining being used as an outdoor peeving area. Be class in the Summer. Much better than the 20 metre bit there atm. 

Was that to be 'paving' or 'perving'?  

 

I'm good with either  or both

[Doctor Zaius]

8 minutes ago, 1964 said:

Was that to be 'paving' or 'perving'?  

 

I'm good with either  or both

 

Geordie (and Scottish I think) slag for drinking.

 

Not sure we need a drinking/fan zone area near the stadium. Love the amount of pubs within a short distance of the stadium as it is.

[Superior Acuña]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

Geordie (and Scottish I think) slag for drinking.

 

Not sure we need a drinking/fan zone area near the stadium. Love the amount of pubs within a short distance of the stadium as it is.

 

That's a new one to me, thought it was a typo.

 

Yeah agree, would much rather people filling and supporting pubs than in something like that.

[stozo]

18 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

What's the fastest people think we could realistically have the Gallowgate extended? (from now to completed)

 

 

 

The Riverside Stand at Fulham is almost done I believe and was started in Summer 2019. So that probably gives an idea of timeframe. 

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, stozo said:

The Riverside Stand at Fulham is almost done I believe and was started in Summer 2019. So that probably gives an idea of timeframe. 

Aye but they literally had to fill part of the river in and hire a specialist river boat crane.

It has also looked complete for about a year now, but looked like they haven’t been bothered to add the seats in.

[bowlingcrofty]

I’m gonna take a punt at summer 2026. A year to design and get relevant planning permissions and then two years to build.

 

I don’t think we’re just looking at a Gallowgate extension here, it’ll be a full upgrade of the stadium.

[TBG]

So assuming the developer hasn't carved out some land to keep, everything in green is the land the club will have bought back.

 

 

I'm assuming the small slithers of land is something to do with the metro lines though

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by TBG

[DomBrearo]

Not many city stadiums left in the world, we should fight for it 

[Novocastrian]

Anyone know the current capacity of the East Stand? Maximising that space  - the stand is now 50 years old - with a new improved stand looks the key to a 60,000+ capacity.

[TBG]

 

Guessing that's also been bought 

[Stifler]

Can you check the land where the Barker & Stonehouse store is please?

Apparently the club have bought it.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by Stifler

[TBG]

4 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Can you check the land where the Barker & Stonehouse store is please?

Apparently the club have bought it.

 

 

 

 

 

There's a mortgage dated 2018 still over the land, and no pending applications to transfer the land, so highly unlikely they've bought it

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by TBG

[AyeDubbleYoo]

15 minutes ago, TBG said:

So assuming the developer hasn't calved out some land to keep, everything in green is the land the club will have bought back.

 

 

I'm assuming the small slithers of land is something to do with the metro lines though

 

That doesn't really look like it buys you all that much space TBH, but I don't understand structural engineering too much.

[madras]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

That doesn't really look like it buys you all that much space TBH, but I don't understand structural engineering too much.

It does when you stand there and look at how big the plot actually is 

[TBG]

44 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

That doesn't really look like it buys you all that much space TBH, but I don't understand structural engineering too much.

 

It could be larger.

 

A lot of the land around there has been carved up and without paying for the title, I can't see who actually owns, but I'm assuming the developer does. 

 

 

Like that piece of land is where the memorial stuff is, and I'm assuming that was sold off by Ashley.

 

 

 

That piece of land is also on a separate title, which again I'm assuming was bought by the developer. 

 

Will be a lot easier to see what they've bought when they submit their application to the Land Registry. I'd imagine they'll merge all of the titles. 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by TBG

[Vedder]

27 minutes ago, TBG said:

So assuming the developer hasn't calved out some land to keep, everything in green is the land the club will have bought back.

 

 

I'm assuming the small slithers of land is something to do with the metro lines though

Any idea why the square of red (amongst the green) isn't included? If that square, which on google maps looks like a combination of trees, car parks and steps to the metro, was included we'd have a decent chunk of land to use. 

[TBG]

6 minutes ago, Vedder said:

Any idea why the square of red (amongst the green) isn't included? If that square, which on google maps looks like a combination of trees, car parks and steps to the metro, was included we'd have a decent chunk of land to use. 

 

 

It's on it's own title

 

 

Again probably owned by the developer. 

[Yorkie]

What's the weird right-angled chunk immediately north of those hexagonal advertising boards all about? (Not necessarily a question for TBG).

[TBG]

It's owned by the Metro, so I'd imagine it extends out beneath that section of road. 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2023 by TBG

[Magpie]

I'd heard last year we'd bough the Barker & Stonehouse building, which as it happens is closing down

[Wallsendmag]

2 hours ago, Novocastrian said:

Anyone know the current capacity of the East Stand? Maximising that space  - the stand is now 50 years old - with a new improved stand looks the key to a 60,000+ capacity.

 

5,240.

[Novocastrian]

1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

5,240.

Cheers, wonder how they could fit more into that space?

[Groundhog63]

5 minutes ago, Novocastrian said:

Cheers, wonder how they could fit more into that space?

Have a weight restriction for a start. 

[ponsaelius]

3 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

That doesn't really look like it buys you all that much space TBH, but I don't understand structural engineering too much.

 

It isn't necessarily even required space to extend the Gallowgate from a purely spatial point. Most of an actual extension would be across the existing footprint of the Gallowgate and what is currently Strawberry Place.

 

It's more that any development on that land would basically kibosh being able to extend across Strawberry Place. 1. because there would be resi immediately adjacent to it, and 2. because you'd almost certainly need some structural elements of an extension into that land and development would need full control of any works to the Metro station.

 

Having the land back in ownership solves all those barriers. It also provides the opportunity to develop that entire site with associated club developments.

[pedro111]

I know fuck all about anything but I am absolutely certain that they could double the capacity of the East Stand by moving the pitch westwards by as many feet as possible and building a steep new stand in its place. They can even paint a giant picture of the sun on the back to keep Leazes Terrace happy.