midds Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, Kanji said: It seems like the perfect venue for the club or corporate clients to entertain, and decent enough seats to get a feel of the place but otherwise I think it's hella expensive for 1 bloody match. Of course, yeah And if it brings in lots of revenue and people are happy to pay it then it's all good, hope they enjoy every minute. Just not my bag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 The whole point of being at the match is to be part of the atmosphere. I'm sure there'll be people who appreciate the comfort and the nice menus in the private boxes, but for most people just having a seat in an area of the ground which makes some noise is enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, midds said: Of course, yeah And if it brings in lots of revenue and people are happy to pay it then it's all good, hope they enjoy every minute. Just not my bag Whether the diehards will like it or not, this type of offering sort of has to be in the stadium in the new world we live in with the amount of money in football. It's also the kind of stuff our owners and our executives like and get involved with. Purely from my corporate job perspective, it's a no brainer to do this. If I was entertaining clients who just liked football but wanted to do some heavy drinking but had no stake in the match, I'd hoy them up there if thats what needed to be done for the biz. Edited August 15, 2023 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kanji said: Whether the diehards will like it or not, this type of offering sort of has to be in the stadium in the new world we live in with the amount of money in football. It's also the kind of stuff our owners and our executives like and get involved with. Purely from my corporate job perspective, it's a no brainer to do this. If I was entertaining clients who just liked football but wanted to do some heavy drinking but had no stake in the match, I'd hoy them up there if thats what needed to be done for the biz. Again, absolutely spot on. No issue with it being there it's just not for me personally. I'd also like to think it gets used as a space for conferences and conventions all year round and through the week too. The more cash coming into the till the better from a FFP point of view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, midds said: Again, absolutely spot on. No issue with it being there it's just not for me personally. I'd also like to think it gets used as a space for conferences and conventions all year round and through the week too. The more cash coming into the till the better from a FFP point of view 100%! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, midds said: Again, absolutely spot on. No issue with it being there it's just not for me personally. I'd also like to think it gets used as a space for conferences and conventions all year round and through the week too. The more cash coming into the till the better from a FFP point of view Probably a good spot for concerts too, and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 13/08/2023 at 11:41, Groundhog63 said: Found it ? Gives old school missed the kick-off vibes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) £7.5K now seems a like a good deal when it’s £650 + VAT a match I’d rather sit in that section of the ground than in the Milburn corporate areas. You’re right in amongst the noise of the Gallowgate there. Still a fuck ton of money Edited August 15, 2023 by TheGuv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, Kanji said: Whether the diehards will like it or not, this type of offering sort of has to be in the stadium in the new world we live in with the amount of money in football. It's also the kind of stuff our owners and our executives like and get involved with. Purely from my corporate job perspective, it's a no brainer to do this. If I was entertaining clients who just liked football but wanted to do some heavy drinking but had no stake in the match, I'd hoy them up there if thats what needed to be done for the biz. Tax incentive for entertaining clients, so can obviously claim it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 minute ago, wyn davies said: Tax incentive for entertaining clients, so can obviously claim it back. Never understood why that tax break is a thing. Why do clients need "entertaining" ? Surely it's corruption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Guess the theory is it's part of marketing. Schmooze people and they'll likely choose you over a competitor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Just now, madras said: Never understood why that tax break is a thing. Why do clients need "entertaining" ? Surely it's corruption. No different at work, where us at the bottom get a few cans for crimbo, the bornleader makes sure he gets his receipt to claim out of the business account to reduce their tax on the profit/ loss account , as you say clearly a fiddle but open to everyone who fills in their self assement tax bill and totally legal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, wyn davies said: No different at work, where us at the bottom get a few cans for crimbo, the bornleader makes sure he gets his receipt to claim out of the business account to reduce their tax on the profit/ loss account , as you say clearly a fiddle but open to everyone who fills in their self assement tax bill and totally legal. I know it's legal, just don't know why. And paying staff is totally different to bribing clients. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheGuv said: £7.5K now seems a like a good deal when it’s £650 + VAT a match I’d rather sit in that section of the ground than in the Milburn corporate areas. You’re right in amongst the noise of the Gallowgate there. Still a fuck ton of money Aye, but it's £7k plus Vat and you can only buy in pairs ?? Edited August 15, 2023 by patrone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 hours ago, BonesJones said: The days of pissing down the back of people's legs and being accepting of it because of the rush you get from being part of the crush is long gone, and that feels like a shame. Sad times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 07:39, LFEE said: It be good if they could lower the roof on the new stadium so if it was lower attended game it would still keep the atmosphere decent. So in effect changing the capacity to suite. You’d imagine the new stadium will have every available bell and whistle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 hours ago, SteV said: So it’s 800 for a single game but ‘only’ 7.5k for a ST? This is from the email... So a bit more than 7 then, plus the fact the requirement is for two tickets to be purchased In fact, I pretty much looked like buzzcocks amongst people up there anyways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, madras said: I know it's legal, just don't know why. And paying staff is totally different to bribing clients. All client entertainment is not tax deductible. What happens though it's paid through the business instead of it coming after income tax etc from someone's personal account. Every employee gets £150 for entertainment which can be claimed back, what usually happens is they'll lump some client spending onto that. I've actually challenged a previous employer about why no entertainment was being given out to us across the year.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: All client entertainment is not tax deductible. What happens though it's paid through the business instead of it coming after income tax etc from someone's personal account. Every employee gets £150 for entertainment which can be claimed back, what usually happens is they'll lump some client spending onto that. I've actually challenged a previous employer about why no entertainment was being given out to us across the year.... Why would an employee get an entertainment allowance ? Some client entertainment must be tax deductible as nearly all the self employed people I've known ask for the receipts when out for meals etc "the bigger the group the better". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, madras said: Why would an employee get an entertainment allowance ? Some client entertainment must be tax deductible as nearly all the self employed people I've known ask for the receipts when out for meals etc "the bigger the group the better". Because they do, that's what pays for most xmas parties etc. It's been like that for a very long time, every employee gets that. Rules are different for self employed people, they are probably putting them against subsistence when they shouldn't be. Edited August 15, 2023 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 hours ago, wyn davies said: Tax incentive for entertaining clients, so can obviously claim it back. Just an fyi. Client entertainment isn’t an allowable deduction for corporation tax. So there’s no tax incentive here. If the company is claiming the cost on their tax return that is tax evasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BottledDog said: The days of pissing down the back of people's legs and being accepting of it because of the rush you get from being part of the crush is long gone, and that feels like a shame. Sad times. People pay good money to be pissed on these day, so I'm told. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Because they do, that's what pays for most xmas parties etc. It's been like that for a very long time, every employee gets that. Rules are different for self employed people, they are probably putting them against subsistence when they shouldn't be. I doubt they'd be able to claim for 22 people at the Simla on subsistence For everyone gets that. I might have to ask my employer cos we get fuck all. Edited August 15, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, madras said: I doubt they'd be able to claim for 22 people at the Simla on subsistence For everyone gets that. I might have to ask my employer cos we get fuck all. Yes, I'm very wary of employers who don't do it, I reckon they are claiming on behalf of employees though for their "own" functions for upper management as HMRC don't check. FYI: https://www.gov.uk/expenses-benefits-social-functions-parties/whats-exempt Edited August 15, 2023 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 12:58, mattypnufc said: If it’s any help, that entire area is already planned and ready for redevelopment. I should know as it’s my organisation who’ve helped get developers onboard for the land. Yes, there seems to be a problem with people accepting that rather important fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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