Stevie Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 By Brian Mcnally 22/04/2007 More Football Have your say: Football forum AS Sunderland prepare to join Newcastle in the Premiership, Black Cats chairman Niall Quinn has spoken for the first time about the peace pact that has reunited the warring giants of Tyne and Wear. As exclusively revealed by the Sunday Mirror this month, Quinn and his Newcastle counterpart Freddy Shepherd have held secret talks to end the bad blood between the clubs that goes back to previous chairmen Bob Murray and Sir John Hall. The bickering began when Murray publicly declared he must always have a bigger capacity than Newcastle - a dream shattered when St James' Park was increased to 52,000 seats in 2000. Advertisement Murray had upped the ante by walking into the Newcastle boardroom after his side's 2-1 derby win in August 1999 wearing a Sunderland top. Now Quinn is hoping the near-neighbours can take the top flight by storm. He said: "I wasn't party to any of the stuff that went on before. But I'd like to think there is a relationship that now exists between the two clubs. OK, we want to beat each other, but there is a different flavour now. "This region needs Newcastle and Sunderland playing each other in the top flight. It might be a pipe-dream, but I'd love to see Sunderland and Newcastle around the top of the Premiership. "We don't need to be fighting around trying to have a few hundred more seats than them. I respect what Newcastle have done since the days of Kevin Keegan." Quinn (above) insists the Tyne-Wear derby is still one of the most passionate local rivalries in English football. He added: "I've played in the Manchester derby, I've played in Arsenal-Spurs - and ours up here is on a planet of its own." Having played in the N.London derby and the Manc derby he's qualified to compare, and clearly he thinks ours pisses on theirs in terms of passion. I watched that Spurs game yesterday, the atmosphere was utter s****. What makes ours different is it's more than football, the rivalry is 500 years old, and is political as much as sporting. I'm pleased they're coming back up to be honest, it's a case of can't live with them, can't live without them, and they should be a big club Sunderland. I can only think of four clubs in England with a bigger true fanbase than them. Do you think the likes of Everton or Spurs would take 10,000 to Barnsley? Would they f***. They really are c***s, but it would be nice to see Newcastle and Sunderland in the top 6. The rivalry with the mackems, is political as much as anything else, 500 years of history, and them c***s moaning that we get the best deal. "We payad for yuuwuh metroaah twenteeh year'agoah, and we oahnly gorrit in 2003." <<< Typical mackem. I think when it becomes an inter city rivalry it becomes more intense. My mate in Manchester claims, Mancunian United fans hate City more than Liverpool I think that's bollocks. I hand on heart think Liverpool - Man Utd is the only one that comes near Newcastle - Sunderland and it's for similar reasons. I think the hatred between Man Utd and Liverpool is perhaps partly because they dominated, but I just think mancs hate scousers full stop. It's turned full circle really in history, Liverpool was for a long, long time Europe's biggest and richest port. It's run down now, but the architecture in parts of Liverpool is testament to it's prosperous Victorian past. Manchester was always the poor relation, and this is reflected by it's more modest Victorian era buildings. Manchester was the biggest factory in the country really, but didn't have the riches Liverpool had. I think the rivalry must've developed from there. After the first World War Liverpool's prominence as a major port went through the floor. I read somewhere between 1920 and 1980 the dippers population almost halfed, and the money of the 19th century never returned, and Merseyside became the most derelict, desolate place on these islands, and further created a siege mentality of "we're on our own", which no other city in this country has. While Victimpool was on the decline, Manchester was very much on the up, today few people can dispute Manchester is the second city of England, some say Birimingham but it's s***, and no c*** goes there for any reason other than football. So there's been economic and social rivalry for years, there's been serious football rivalry at least for 50 years In recent years the footballing rivalry has intensified to new levels, Liverpool fans throwing s*** at Man Utd fans in the ground, rocking Alan Smith's ambulance, Man Utd fans singing about Heysel and Hillsborough, what ever the reasons are I have to disagree that Man Utd v Man City has more hate than Man Utd v Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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