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We need some midfielders with end product in. Emre hasn't got an end product, neither has Dyer. Sell them both.

 

You're right, neither have ever showed any end product.

 

Why oh why must we sell everyone who under-performed last season (ie. the whole team)? We've got a new manager coming in, with new techniques. Emre, Dyer etc are not bad players, and I for one would like to see them start afresh with a new manager, so we can see what he can do for them. Admittedly some players need to go and have gone, but I don't see any reason to replace Emre or Dyer.

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Joey Barton career league stats:

 

02/03 - 7 apps - 1 goal - 0 assists

03/04 - 28 apps - 1 goal - 2 assists

04/05 - 31 apps - 1 goal - 4 assists

05/06 - 31 apps - 7 goals (1 pen) - 4 assists

06/07 - 33 apps - 6 goals - (1 pen) 4 assists

 

I think people are seriously overrating him. Parker got 3 goals this season. Barton only got 3 more and he played more games. I am not arguing to keep Parker here, i'm saying Barton is vastly overrated.

 

Barton is more of a Roy Keane type midfielder, someone who can get up and down the pitch and grab the game by the scruff of the neck when he needs to, he's what most thought Parker would be when he came here, not the headless chicken he turned out to be.

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We need some midfielders with end product in. Emre hasn't got an end product, neither has Dyer. Sell them both.

 

You're right, neither have ever showed any end product.

 

Why oh why must we sell everyone who under-performed last season (ie. the whole team)? We've got a new manager coming in, with new techniques. Emre, Dyer etc are not bad players, and I for one would like to see them start afresh with a new manager, so we can see what he can do for them. Admittedly some players need to go and have gone, but I don't see any reason to replace Emre or Dyer.

 

Agreed, if we got rid of everyone who underperformed last season then we would have to change nearly the whole squad.

 

 

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Joey Barton career league stats:

 

02/03 - 7 apps - 1 goal - 0 assists

03/04 - 28 apps - 1 goal - 2 assists

04/05 - 31 apps - 1 goal - 4 assists

05/06 - 31 apps - 7 goals (1 pen) - 4 assists

06/07 - 33 apps - 6 goals - (1 pen) 4 assists

 

I think people are seriously overrating him. Parker got 3 goals this season. Barton only got 3 more and he played more games. I am not arguing to keep Parker here, i'm saying Barton is vastly overrated.

 

Barton is more of a Roy Keane type midfielder, someone who can get up and down the pitch and grab the game by the scruff of the neck when he needs to, he's what most thought Parker would be when he came here, not the headless chicken he turned out to be.

 

My worry is that Barton will do more than "grab the game by the scruff of the neck" - no denying his passion for the game, but on that wavelength I can't deny it sometimes clouds his judgement, and as said before by far my biggest issue with the guy is well-known behaviour issues. And again I really don't think he is really any better than Parker.

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Dyer must go now. How long is it gonna take people to realize what a waster he is? I'm not saying sell the whole squad. Personally i would rather we kept Parker, and got rid of Dyer and Emre and replaced them with two attacking midfielders who can score goals and create things. If you look at the top teams they all have midfielders who score goals. We rely so heavily on our strikers because we don't have midfielders who can score goals. When Bobby was manager we had Solano, Robert and Speed all scoring. We will get absolutely nowhere if we have to rely on our strikers all of the time.

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Manuel Fernandes has to be made the #1 target IMO, he's a class player already and is only going to get better. Benfica are looking for around that £11m, but if Ashley is serious about looking to "revive a fallen giant"(or some bullshit like that), then he should be able to afford that, good players cost good money. And it would prove to be a bargain IMO, a classy DM that has proven he can handle the premiership. If we buy Barton then that tells me we're going to settle for mid table again, he's a nothing player. If HE was Portuguese we would never have heard of him.

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Manuel Fernandes has to be made the #1 target IMO, he's a class player already and is only going to get better. Benfica are looking for around that £11m, but if Ashley is serious about looking to "revive a fallen giant"(or some bullshit like that), then he should be able to afford that, good players cost good money. And it would prove to be a bargain IMO, a classy DM that has proven he can handle the premiership. If we buy Barton then that tells me we're going to settle for mid table again, he's a nothing player. If HE was Portuguese we would never have heard of him.

 

:thup: :thup: :thup: :thup:

 

Tried to bring him up in the Nani thread but it got lost in the Toon Vs Spurs shite.

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If we're getting anyone in from the portugese league it has to be Lucho Gonzalez imo. Way better player than Fernandes.

 

Could not agree more. However, I believe he's Porto's captain so I doubt they'd be willing to sell.

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One is 21 and the other is 26, also one is alot more realistic than the other. I would pick Fernandes myself.

 

Fernandes also works in the EPL while the other guy is an unknown gamble.

 

 

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One is 21 and the other is 26, also one is alot more realistic than the other. I would pick Fernandes myself.

 

Fernandes also works in the EPL while the other guy is an unknown gamble.

 

 

 

Captains Porto ffs... over 30 caps for argentina... great technique with hell of a shot on him. Unknown gamble... :lol:

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You never know, we're selling our captain.

 

Parker seems to want out, and it's not as if our future success is at all dependant on the likes of him staying. Not the case for Porto.

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One is 21 and the other is 26, also one is alot more realistic than the other. I would pick Fernandes myself.

 

Fernandes also works in the EPL while the other guy is an unknown gamble.

 

 

 

Captains Porto ffs... over 30 caps for argentina... great technique with hell of a shot on him. Unknown gamble... :lol:

 

Has he played in the EPL? No, thats what i meant  and he would be a gamble until we've seen him here.

 

Shevchenko & Veron, those two should emphasize my point beautifully  O0

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One is 21 and the other is 26, also one is alot more realistic than the other. I would pick Fernandes myself.

 

Fernandes also works in the EPL while the other guy is an unknown gamble.

 

 

 

Captains Porto ffs... over 30 caps for argentina... great technique with hell of a shot on him. Unknown gamble... :lol:

 

Has he played in the EPL? No, thats what i meant  and he would be a gamble until we've seen him here.

 

Shevchenko & Veron, those two should emphasize my point beautifully  O0

 

Gamble yes, unknown definitely not.

 

The point here is, with class players, they're more likely to succeed than not. While people like to point out the likes of Shevchenko and Veron, they're part of the minority few world class stars that didnt impress here. For every one failure there's 2-3 success stories but no one ever brings them up. And we're not even talking about figures close to the 30m that each of these two cost.

 

To emphasize my point

Essien

Ballack

Ronaldo

Alonso

Mascherano

Tevez

Berbatov

Drogba

 

list goes on...

 

Didnt stop Man Utd from spending over 50m on Hargreaves, Anderson, and Nani. 3 'unknown' 'gambles' by your standards.

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Sad to see Parker go, but it seem inevitable, but the shock for once is we are actually making a profit on a player

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f365 is reporting the same, well only half a million profit then, but what a turn around, usually we pay top dollar then just give them away for nothing.

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Parker17 will have to change his name again. Kiss of death that lad.

 

I've already done it for him.

 

What was his name before? :lol:

 

Woodgate27, Bellamy10 and Sibierski20 on Toontastic.

 

He's now Duff11 - my choice.

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