Astroblack Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Better than any winger we currently have at the club tbh. Not Milner. The highpoint of our season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Better than any winger we currently have at the club tbh. Not Milner. The highpoint of our season. Other than getting rid of that cunt Roeder. And then Shambles going. They were important moments too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions. He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide. Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years. Not sure the point you're maing really, as I would have though improving the squad would be a positive. He's arguably better than Milner as well, to be fair. Milner's very good, but I think he'll always lack the pace to be a truly terrifying winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Milner does have his faults, but he's only 20. He can mature into a very good player. He just needs to stop takin guys on and cross the ball the first chance he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions. He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide. Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years. Not sure the point you're maing really, as I would have though improving the squad would be a positive. He's arguably better than Milner as well, to be fair. Milner's very good, but I think he'll always lack the pace to be a truly terrifying winger. The point i was making was that being better than Dyer or Duff on the left was no big deal, we already have players who are that. As for being better than Milner, i haven't seen anything to indicate THAT, but let me guess, you've seen him play 79 times this season, so know that to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Better than any winger we currently have at the club tbh. Not Milner. The highpoint of our season. Him being the highpoint of our season, a season that was our worst points wise since we've been back in the Premiership really doesn't count for a lot. The lad has hardly any pace which means he never going to be good enough for a top 4 side which is where we aim to be, he also doesn't have the ability on the ball that someone like Solano or Beckham did to make up for it, it hasn't worked out for SWP at Chelsea but he has the pace and penetration to make it at a top 4 club if used correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions. He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide. Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years. Not sure the point you're maing really, as I would have though improving the squad would be a positive. He's arguably better than Milner as well, to be fair. Milner's very good, but I think he'll always lack the pace to be a truly terrifying winger. The point i was making was that being better than Dyer or Duff on the left was no big deal, we already have players who are that. As for being better than Milner, i haven't seen anything to indicate THAT, but let me guess, you've seen him play 79 times this season, so know that to be the case. I never said the left, I said out wide, which can be the right as well. Seen plenty of Wright-Phillips yourself then or is that only relevant when I'm making judgements on a player, and not when you're doing so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 milner is nowhere near as good as SWP, nowhere near. agree with what Baggio has said, as usual. £10m seems like a pretty good price too. obviously i'd only support us getting him if he fits into a system, rather than just getting him for his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions. He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide. Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years. Not sure the point you're maing really, as I would have though improving the squad would be a positive. He's arguably better than Milner as well, to be fair. Milner's very good, but I think he'll always lack the pace to be a truly terrifying winger. The point i was making was that being better than Dyer or Duff on the left was no big deal, we already have players who are that. As for being better than Milner, i haven't seen anything to indicate THAT, but let me guess, you've seen him play 79 times this season, so know that to be the case. I never said the left, I said out wide, which can be the right as well. Seen plenty of Wright-Phillips yourself then or is that only relevant when I'm making judgements on a player, and not when you're doing so? "I haven't seen anything to indicate THAT". Like i said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowndsy Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 surely competition between milner and swp for the right side is only good for the club.. if stuck stick milner on the left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posadageordie Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 , if we didn't have Milner than aye, without doubt, Milner is utter shite. Nice lad, works hard, but wingers have to have pace, a trick, beat the full back and put a cross in. Milner can do none of these things consistently and should be flogged to Wigan or Stoke immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowndsy Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 pace isnt everything.. helps to have pace but not end of world if you dont have it.. milner can beat players without out pacing them... ( most the time )bit harsh on him there imo "posadageordie" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If we're aiming to play the 4-3-3 system then I'd be all for getting him in and selling Duff. Provided we've enough money after strengthening other positions. He's gotten lost at Chelsea really, people forget how good he was at Man City I think. He'd be a vast upgrade on Dyer and Duff out wide. Better than Dyer or Duff on the left? So is my great gran, and she's been dead for 16 years. Not sure the point you're maing really, as I would have though improving the squad would be a positive. He's arguably better than Milner as well, to be fair. Milner's very good, but I think he'll always lack the pace to be a truly terrifying winger. The point i was making was that being better than Dyer or Duff on the left was no big deal, we already have players who are that. As for being better than Milner, i haven't seen anything to indicate THAT, but let me guess, you've seen him play 79 times this season, so know that to be the case. I never said the left, I said out wide, which can be the right as well. Seen plenty of Wright-Phillips yourself then or is that only relevant when I'm making judgements on a player, and not when you're doing so? "I haven't seen anything to indicate THAT". Like i said. Well that explains things fully thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posadageordie Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 if stuck stick milner on the left Where he has never produced anything in 4 years, including a loan spell at Swindon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 , if we didn't have Milner than aye, without doubt, Milner is utter s****. Nice lad, works hard, but wingers have to have pace, a trick, beat the full back and put a cross in. Milner can do none of these things consistently and should be flogged to Wigan or Stoke immediately. Figo hasn't had pace for the last 5 years, still best winger in the world in that period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posadageordie Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 , if we didn't have Milner than aye, without doubt, Milner is utter s****. Nice lad, works hard, but wingers have to have pace, a trick, beat the full back and put a cross in. Milner can do none of these things consistently and should be flogged to Wigan or Stoke immediately. A fine point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 James Milner - Newcastle's player of the season 06/07 Tin hat on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Just my opinion: Milner is far better than SWP out wide. SWP would be far more devastating in a Beardsley position off the main striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Just my opinion: Milner is far better than SWP out wide. SWP would be far more devastating in a Beardsley position off the main striker. Personally think it's the opposite, reckon Milner would be better off playing through the middle due to his lack of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest posadageordie Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 , if we didn't have Milner than aye, without doubt, Milner is utter s****. Nice lad, works hard, but wingers have to have pace, a trick, beat the full back and put a cross in. Milner can do none of these things consistently and should be flogged to Wigan or Stoke immediately. Figo hasn't had pace for the last 5 years, still best winger in the world in that period Are you seriously comparing Figo to Milner? And when did Figo last play as an out and out wide man? Laughable. Milner's a Championship player, it makes me goggle at the praise he get for....er....running up and down the line and trying. Admirable, but from a club who had Waddle on the wing while shite 25 years ago in div 2 it astounds me that people seriously watch Milner and say he's 'top class' or ' a quality winger'. He's like Lee Hendrie, game, hard working but poor. People like him because he's young and they somehow think that in 5 years he's going to turn into Garrincha. He's not...he's just an average/below par Prem footballer. Nowt more, nowt less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 , if we didn't have Milner than aye, without doubt, Milner is utter s****. Nice lad, works hard, but wingers have to have pace, a trick, beat the full back and put a cross in. Milner can do none of these things consistently and should be flogged to Wigan or Stoke immediately. Figo hasn't had pace for the last 5 years, still best winger in the world in that period Are you seriously comparing Figo to Milner? And when did Figo last play as an out and out wide man? Laughable. Milner's a Championship player, it makes me goggle at the praise he get for....er....running up and down the line and trying. Admirable, but from a club who had Waddle on the wing while shite 25 years ago in div 2 it astounds me that people seriously watch Milner and say he's 'top class' or ' a quality winger'. He's like Lee Hendrie, game, hard working but poor. People like him because he's young and they somehow think that in 5 years he's going to turn into Garrincha. He's not...he's just an average/below par Prem footballer. Nowt more, nowt less. And SWP? Rarely able to get past his man, crosses like Dyer. He's fucking great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 James Milner - Newcastle's player of the season 06/07 Tin hat on. Definatly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 never compared Figo to Milner but you said 'wingers have to have pace' it isn't true if you're good enough on the ball and can provide delivery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Just my opinion: Milner is far better than SWP out wide. SWP would be far more devastating in a Beardsley position off the main striker. Personally think it's the opposite, reckon Milner would be better off playing through the middle due to his lack of pace. Milner can't finish. Rules him out of the secondary striker role IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If both Milner and Shaun Wright-Phillips were playing at their best, then SWP would probably be the better player. However, i get the feeling that we'll see more of Milner playing well consitently, whereas Wright-Phillips will come in fits and spurts, what with his career being damaged so significantly. He was arguably England's best attacking prospect at City, certainly the brightest new midfield hope, but the move to Chelsea has lessened any chance of a blinding career, which he could so easily have had. He's still young, but it's a £6-10m gamble that just isn't worth it for me, and plus it's not exactly a problem area. Look deeper into Chelsea's squad and get Geremi, who can play in one of our problem areas, and two of our other areas that need strengthening. He's great at right-back, while good on the wing and can also play a defensive midfield role. And he'd cost a lot less than Wright-Phillips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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