Guest johnson293 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 does nobody have any confidence in Allardyce? I'm sure Bolton fans were as bemused as we are here when they signed people like Kevin Davies and El-Hadji "lack of saliva control" Diouf, but both turned into crucial players for them. Ffs lads, Sam has a talent for bringing the best out of mediocre players. Unlike Roeder, he isn't just going to sing a player based on the name and for the point of it (see Duff), he probably has a conrete plan for Smith. That said I don't quite see how he's a replacement for Dyer... Perhaps Smith isn't necessarily the replacement for Dyer - maybe Sam sees a current memeber of the squad being able to step up/forward and take on Dyers role (N'Zogbia? or Troisi? or Milner?) - hopefully with less injuries, and with more end product. Smith adss other qualities to the squad, and as a body, yes he is a Dyer replacement, but maybe not so much in actaul role. Just a thought! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Gemmill Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1083371,00.html Big Sam looks like he's just got off the special bus on that picture mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 does nobody have any confidence in Allardyce? I'm sure Bolton fans were as bemused as we are here when they signed people like Kevin Davies and El-Hadji "lack of saliva control" Diouf, but both turned into crucial players for them. Ffs lads, Sam has a talent for bringing the best out of mediocre players. Unlike Roeder, he isn't just going to sing a player based on the name and for the point of it (see Duff), he probably has a conrete plan for Smith. That said I don't quite see how he's a replacement for Dyer... Perhaps Smith isn't necessarily the replacement for Dyer - maybe Sam sees a current memeber of the squad being able to step up/forward and take on Dyers role (N'Zogbia? or Troisi? or Milner?) - hopefully with less injuries, and with more end product. Smith adss other qualities to the squad, and as a body, yes he is a Dyer replacement, but maybe not so much in actaul role. Just a thought! Good point, sir. I like your optimistic outlook on matters. Plus I'm happy to take it because I think Dyer is a snivelling turd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1083371,00.html Big Sam looks like he's just got off the special bus on that picture mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 He will play less games for us than Dyer did, total waste of money!! How have you come to that conclusion exactly? He is just as injury prone but we also have the games hhe will miss after his red cards! In the last 8 seasons, since signing for Newcastle, Dyer has played 222 games. Smith has played 291 in the same time.. Smith is a bit injury prone maybe, but not in the same league as Dyer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth Toon Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Very happy if this goes through - Smith is a very good player. Saw a lot of him at Leeds and I think he'll fit nicely in the wide right position in Sam's 4-3-3: Martins - Viduka - Smith Pace, power and plenty of running. Tasty! 8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 In the last 8 seasons, since signing for Newcastle, Dyer has played 222 games. Smith has played 291 in the same time.. Smith is a bit injury prone maybe, but not in the same league as Dyer. And then there is the goal difference. While I realise Smith isnt a prolific scorer (apart from one year at Leeds when he got 18), I'd he's still capable and has the potential (injuries and selection permitting) to score more goals a season than Dyer, whose best ever return in a season was something like 7 goals?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 does nobody have any confidence in Allardyce? I'm sure Bolton fans were as bemused as we are here when they signed people like Kevin Davies and El-Hadji "lack of saliva control" Diouf, but both turned into crucial players for them. Ffs lads, Sam has a talent for bringing the best out of mediocre players. Unlike Roeder, he isn't just going to sing a player based on the name and for the point of it (see Duff), he probably has a conrete plan for Smith. That said I don't quite see how he's a replacement for Dyer... totally agree mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 He will play less games for us than Dyer did, total waste of money!! How have you come to that conclusion exactly? He is just as injury prone but we also have the games hhe will miss after his red cards! In the last 8 seasons, since signing for Newcastle, Dyer has played 222 games. Smith has played 291 in the same time.. Smith is a bit injury prone maybe, but not in the same league as Dyer. Narr smith hasnt played that many games because he has been a squad player and the one injury he did have was that freak broken leg incident so hardly injury prone. still i prefer dyers style of play but i have confidence in big sam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 As far as i'm concerned if we are replacing Dyer with a player more heart and use whilst making a profit in the proccess you wil get no complaint from this direction. Smiths a far better player than some would make out, he is also the right kind of personality i want at this football club. Aswell as being, rightly or wrongly, an England international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 does nobody have any confidence in Allardyce? I'm sure Bolton fans were as bemused as we are here when they signed people like Kevin Davies and El-Hadji "lack of saliva control" Diouf, but both turned into crucial players for them. Ffs lads, Sam has a talent for bringing the best out of mediocre players. Unlike Roeder, he isn't just going to sing a player based on the name and for the point of it (see Duff), he probably has a conrete plan for Smith. That said I don't quite see how he's a replacement for Dyer... Perhaps Smith isn't necessarily the replacement for Dyer - maybe Sam sees a current memeber of the squad being able to step up/forward and take on Dyers role (N'Zogbia? or Troisi? or Milner?) - hopefully with less injuries, and with more end product. Smith adss other qualities to the squad, and as a body, yes he is a Dyer replacement, but maybe not so much in actaul role. Just a thought! Good post imo-i hadnt thought of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I don't want him here at all but it looks as though he is coming so I will back him, one thing is for sure I won't be booing him no matter what!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I dunno...never liked Smith...probably more for personal reasons..but for 6mill! He's a good bike rider mind you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1083371,00.html Big Sam looks like he's just got off the special bus on that picture mind. His seat is next to James! On the number 69 special to retardville! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Newcastle agree £6m fee for Smith - beeb Smith started his career with hometown club Leeds Newcastle have confirmed they have agreed a fee with Manchester United for England striker Alan Smith. The Magpies are in talks with the 26-year-old, who has been linked to a host of Premiership clubs, and it is believed the deal is worth £6m. Smith could even make his Newcastle debut alongside former Leeds team-mate Mark Viduka in a pre-season friendly against Sampdoria on Sunday. Out-of-contract Lyon captain Cacapa, 31, is also in talks with Newcastle. The Brazilian central defender skippered the French champions in each of their last five title-winning seasons. 606: DEBATE Does Alan Smith's future lie at Old Trafford? Newcastle manager Sam Allardyce has so far added Viduka, Joey Barton, David Rozehnal and Geremi to the squad since arriving at the club. But with six players departing and Kieron Dyer also set to leave, Allardyce has been frustrated over the lack of new faces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DazzaNufc1892 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 maybe now people will believe me when i tell then whats coming out of OT lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 does nobody have any confidence in Allardyce? I'm sure Bolton fans were as bemused as we are here when they signed people like Kevin Davies and El-Hadji "lack of saliva control" Diouf, but both turned into crucial players for them. Ffs lads, Sam has a talent for bringing the best out of mediocre players. Unlike Roeder, he isn't just going to sing a player based on the name and for the point of it (see Duff), he probably has a conrete plan for Smith. That said I don't quite see how he's a replacement for Dyer... I have confidence in Sam. IMO Smith is not a mediocre player and I'm sure Sam can see where Smith will fit into his team. As for a replacement for Dire, how about a large pile of steaming dog turd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb654 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Great.. soo, how many goals has smth actaully scored? Oh and where can he play in our current squad... i doubt he'll get striker role all the time. (Sorry if i havent read most of this thread) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 maybe now people will believe me when i tell then whats coming out of OT lol I believed you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 maybe now people will believe me when i tell then whats coming out of OT lol I expect you to tell us whats coming out of SJP next season now tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Darren Fletcher is from the North East iirc. 'Dazza' knows Darren Fletcher? Too far fetched. Darren Fletcher posts on N-O!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I remember on one of the old FMs, one of Darren Fletcher's favoured clubs was Newcastle. Would be mad if it was him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 In the last 8 seasons, since signing for Newcastle, Dyer has played 222 games. Smith has played 291 in the same time.. Smith is a bit injury prone maybe, but not in the same league as Dyer. And then there is the goal difference. While I realise Smith isnt a prolific scorer (apart from one year at Leeds when he got 18), I'd he's still capable and has the potential (injuries and selection permitting) to score more goals a season than Dyer Definitely yeah, as you say Smith isn't exactly a goal scorer, but his record of a goal every 4 games over the course of his carear so far is still better then Dyer's record of a goal every 6 games.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 In the last 8 seasons, since signing for Newcastle, Dyer has played 222 games. Smith has played 291 in the same time.. Smith is a bit injury prone maybe, but not in the same league as Dyer. And then there is the goal difference. While I realise Smith isnt a prolific scorer (apart from one year at Leeds when he got 18), I'd he's still capable and has the potential (injuries and selection permitting) to score more goals a season than Dyer Definitely yeah, as you say Smith isn't exactly a goal scorer, but his record of a goal every 4 games over the course of his carear so far is still better then Dyer's record of a goal every 6 games.. Would Smith have had that goal ratio had he spent the most part of his career out wide or in the middle though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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