Colocho Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 We've got 6 months to convince him to sign a new contract, not impossible. That's just for clubs abroad thankfully, clubs in England can't negotiate till 6 weeks before the contract ends Indeed. However, I feel a lot of interest will come from abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Or we have 6 months to a year playing a LB who is going through the motions while his teammates give 100%. He wouldnt be the first player to do that. Seriously cant see us changing his mind if he goes down this route imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The thread title change has made all the difference, much more confident he's staying now! We've got 6 months to convince him to sign a new contract, not impossible. Indeed, especially if the club is confident that he's going to be starting the new campaign. But imo, he's definitely off come next summer if not this It would be nice to see him with this for the whole of next season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Or we have 6 months to a year playing a LB who is going through the motions while his teammates give 100%. He wouldnt be the first player to do that. Seriously cant see us changing his mind if he goes down this route imo He wouldn't be the first player to raise his game near the end of his contract to impress his next club either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Or we have 6 months to a year playing a LB who is going through the motions while his teammates give 100%. He wouldnt be the first player to do that. Seriously cant see us changing his mind if he goes down this route imo He wouldn't be the first player to raise his game near the end of his contract to impress his next club either. True, personally i dont see it as worth the risk losing him for nowt then being hit with a bill for his replacement all based on the hope he is going to be 100% professional. Performances towards the end of the season certainly dipped which is my biggest concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Which is why we should sell him this summer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Almost every players form dipped after we were officially safe tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Perceived dip or not, I don't think we can get better at present. So I'd rather keep him. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Perceived dip or not, I don't think we can get better at present. So I'd rather keep him. Simple as that. Fair enough, i hope we are happy with whatever we get next year as it could be a large part of our budget due to getting no fee for Enrique. Well unless we sell off all our good players next summer.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 A temporary dip in form is nothing IMO, he's still one of the best LBs I've seen in recent years. Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Wouldnt he be signing a contract if he wanted to stay? Or the very minimum actually giving the club the merest hint of encouragement rather than nothing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 A temporary dip in form is nothing IMO, he's still one of the best LBs I've seen in recent years. Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Perceived dip or not, I don't think we can get better at present. So I'd rather keep him. Simple as that. Fair enough, i hope we are happy with whatever we get next year as it could be a large part of our budget due to getting no fee for Enrique. Well unless we sell off all our good players next summer.... Don't worry, I'm assured that what we bring in by selling our best players doesn't form the transfer kitty anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Perceived dip or not, I don't think we can get better at present. So I'd rather keep him. Simple as that. Fair enough, i hope we are happy with whatever we get next year as it could be a large part of our budget due to getting no fee for Enrique. Well unless we sell off all our good players next summer.... Don't worry, I'm assured that what we bring in by selling our best players doesn't form the transfer kitty anyway. Ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Wouldnt he be signing a contract if he wanted to stay? Or the very minimum actually giving the club the merest hint of encouragement rather than nothing? Yeah, probably, or maybe he's just keeping his options open. All I meant was that unless he's actually 100% set on leaving this summer we should be trying everything to retain him. I think it would be too easy just to say "he hasn't signed yet, let's sell him ASAP." Obviously I don't know the situation or Jose's thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Wouldnt he be signing a contract if he wanted to stay? Or the very minimum actually giving the club the merest hint of encouragement rather than nothing? Yeah, probably, or maybe he's just keeping his options open. All I meant was that unless he's actually 100% set on leaving this summer we should be trying everything to retain him. I think it would be too easy just to say "he hasn't signed yet, let's sell him ASAP." Obviously I don't know the situation or Jose's thinking. I didnt say sell him asap but that decision will have to be made at some stage. As romantic as keeping him for a season sounds we all know Ashley wont agree, can see this develop very quickly after Monday when he is back to training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 As long as he was honest about the situation, i'd let him leave for a free next summer. It lets us plan for next summers replacement. It's not as if we are going to see any money we get for him anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Obviously if we know he wants out I can't blame the club for cashing in, but otherwise keep keep keep. Wouldnt he be signing a contract if he wanted to stay? Or the very minimum actually giving the club the merest hint of encouragement rather than nothing? Yeah, probably, or maybe he's just keeping his options open. All I meant was that unless he's actually 100% set on leaving this summer we should be trying everything to retain him. I think it would be too easy just to say "he hasn't signed yet, let's sell him ASAP." Obviously I don't know the situation or Jose's thinking. I didnt say sell him asap but that decision will have to be made at some stage. As romantic as keeping him for a season sounds we all know Ashley wont agree, can see this develop very quickly after Monday when he is back to training. Yeah, I didn't mean you were personally saying that. Just hope it gets resolved soon TBH. Slightly encouraged by how quiet things have gone around him, there's obviously not massive clubs beating his door down yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 My take on it is we will lose him on deadline day with no time to get a adequte replacement and where have i heard that before . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I doubt it would get to that stage because I think any club who want him would have got him or an alternative before that point but I wouldn't be overly surprised if you were right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Slightly encouraged by how quiet things have gone around him, there's obviously not massive clubs beating his door down yet. I wonder If he's having second thoughts about leaving if there hasn't been any major developments (that we know of) regarding clubs bidding for him. It's been widely known for 6 months that he could leave so maybe interest isn't as high as he thought/hoped? I still think he'll leave this summer or next but I also thought he'd have gone by this stage. As usual, your thoughts would be appreciated, Jose. Pretty please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I doubt it would get to that stage because I think any club who want him would have got him or an alternative before that point but I wouldn't be overly surprised if you were right. Imho thats what Liverpool will do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I doubt they'd want to be stung like that again tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I doubt they'd want to be stung like that again tbh. Like Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Why get him on deadline day when they could get him earlier for probably less money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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