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https://www.statista.com/statistics/566666/premier-league-clubs-by-revenue/ 23/24 Season was Breakaway 6 miles ahead, then... Newcastle 320 Villa 272 West Ham 271 Then bit of a gap again to the rest.

Bournemouths defence is getting hammered this window

I was thinking the same last night with a massive hard on

We dont know the players we are going for, and the question was not now, but pre season.

Evidently it is, for the players we're interested in.

A lot of the early deals either involved release clauses, or teams that wanted to add players before the club world cup, either because they were in it, or they were trying to get deals done ahead of other clubs that are in the competition and we're trying to do deals themselves.

We really need 5 signings, 3 for first team, 2 to bolster the bench. Anything less we will get hammered, we're looking at north of 50+ games this season right?

Its not impossible to do smart deals early in the window.

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Diomande to Palace and Guehi to Liverpool isn’t exactly the best news is it

So basically people would prefer we pay what clubs are asking to get players in now, even if we know valuations are at their peak because it's early in the window? Or you'd prefer we pivot to options further down the list that are cheaper just so we can get them in early? Is this really the approach we should be going with?

How are our closer equivalent clubs doing, such as your Villa's and West Ham's? All the noticeable signing seems to have been by the breakaway clubs with the big money and brand lure. We don't have big money, and whilst our lure is surely much greater than those two clubs, it's probably not great enough to have quality players pushing for a move if we enquire.

I’ll be quite disappointed if we haven’t brought in our CB and RW in time for the start of pre-season. They’re the spots that we’re buying what should be immediate first choice players, you want them starting pre season training and bedding in with the team as soon as possible. We know Eddie has a very high standard for fitness before he is comfortable throwing players in there to start, it’s not a disaster but it’s hardly ideal having our key additions starting off a bit behind the others.

Obviously that’s what matters the most. Getting them in very late would be far from ideal though and if it’s only one in for pre-season then it’s quite poor. Albeit not the end of the world.

I dont blame anyone, but yeah when you see the speed other operates in its poor (not that I trust Ryder or anyone covering this club).

Not ideal getting the transfers on the last day is it?

Not really as it's who we've got in by the end of the window that matters.

Nah you need separation therapy

IF it happens and it’s only one in before then yeah it’s poor.

One would be quite poor to be fair.

Not sure, maybe we can beat them this season though ?

Always felt the window was never going to live up to expectations of many that we sign 5-6 class players. But I cannot forsee a window where we don't do anything, that would be pretty inconceivable and pretty negligent on the club's part. I think we will do some decent business eventually but it won't be the ideal scenario that Howe spoke about unfortunately of getting them in early. Probably not even anyone's fault. This summer has just proven so far that PSR is still bullshit and just keeps the "big 6" at the top and they have had first dibs on any players available so it really is a case of having to sit and wait for the big boys to pick and choose what they want and then seeing what's left from the players we have scouted.

Just waiting for the term “mood music” to be used to describe the window now.

I'm really pleased that Liverpool got them first game !

He's not going anywhere unless the fee is well in excess of £150 million. Next summer depending on any new contract and what we have achieved during the season, will be the time for proper debate