Tom_NUFC

I'm sorry but at Dyer

I think the Roeder stuff was at least as bad

well done, you're right about the Roeder thing, and well done for pointing out that Boro aren't holier than thou themselves

Here's the Boro dick slagging us to the hilt

Good. I'll stick the radio on and have a listen.

I'm wondering if someone should perhaps write an article for N-O. Preferably someone who was actually at the game and knows how many people were actually chanting racist stuff, when it occured and for how long. The Media, Boro fans and Southgate are making out like it was all 3,000 NUFC fans present. .com are being a bit too apologetic, and now this Boro idiot Vickers is trying to compare the 'paedo' taunts with the bloody holocaust! And if he's trying to make out that the racist taunts were clear on Setanta, I can say that they definitely were not - which only leads me to assume that it was a small minority. Although the 'Mido is a paedo' chants were clearly audible. It seems like this Vickers cat is trying to lump in the stick they've been getting for years with racist stuff - how very convenient of him. I think we need something that doesn't make excuses for the racist taunts that did happen (I'm afraid the 'he looks like Richard Reid' argument won't wash with people), but that slams those who are only to eager to suggest that it was a mass thing - time to fight back a bit. I'd write something myself, but I wasn't at the game, and it'd sound better and be better informed coming from someone who was there, I mean those of you who were, you can't be happy that Southgate is saying 3,000 NUFC fans (ie all the NUFC fans there) were guilty of racist chanting. If I'd been there, I'd be furious that he was branding me as a racist.

Aye. Our version was If I had the wings of a sparrow And I had the arse of a crow I'd fly over Roker tomorrow And sh*t on the b*stards below, below And sh*t on the b*stards below good one, that. I was drunk last night I was drunk the night before And tonight I'm getting drunk like I've never been before For when we are drunk we're as happy as can be Cos we are the drunk and disorderly Drink, drink wherever you may be We are the drunk and disorderly And we will drink wherever we may be Cos we are the drunk and disorderly

NUFC away at Tranmere, 92/93 there was a one I've never heard before or since, but I thought it was great. To the tune of 'Ebaneezer Goode (The Shamen): He's a c*nt He's a c*nt The Referee's a c*nt To the tune of 'My Ding-a-ling': When I was young, just a bitty boy My Grandmother bought me a nice little toy Two Sunderland fans hanging on a string She told me to kick their f*cking heads in Mackems on a string Mackems on a string She told me to kick their f*cking heads in Mackems on a string Mackems on a string She told me to kick their f*cking heads in I like the 'Sing when you're rimming' one that opposition fans sing to Brighton.

I wouldn't sell him any price, he makes a few mistakes, but he's still only 21 and overall looks very promising. I think he's only going to get better.

I wasn't there and didn't hear any racist chanting on the telly, but if it went on, I think it's unacceptable. As it wasn't picked up on the telly, I'd have to assume that it was a small minority of people doing it, and therefore for Southgate to imply otherwise is wrong. The 'Mido is a Paedo' was inevitible though.

Five Live just announced it's a done deal - he's gone.

shakes head

Not the greatest game in the world, but not a disaster either. We didn't play well, but hey, it happens, and we didn't lose either. I'm not basing anything on today's game. To take a positive, the defence was strong.

He's on Setanta as well. Does the Premier League preview show on Friday nights.

Everton is a f*cking horrid away day. Crap facilities in a crap ground in the crappiest area of a crap city. Not that many pubs around, if you want food, then it's a manky Burger van, McDonalds, or what's available inside the ground - which isn't great. Liverpool - similar, maybe slightly more food wise as there's a chippy beside the ground, but then again there were rats in the lane behind. Haven't been to Villa for ages, but have been a few times in the past, and found it OK, but nothing particularly fantastic. Wigan - a bit boring, only one pub beside the ground, although it was a cracking atmosphere in there. Arsenal, don't know about the Emirates, but going to Highbury was canny. Man U - so-so.

Listen, no matter what NUFC does, we'll be slagged off by the southern-based media. If we go out spending big money on players, then we're squandering/wasting money on players not worth it. If we don't spend as much, we lack ambition, can't attract top players etc. When it comes to those pr!cks we can't win.

Greatr result. We were well organised and had a bit of steel about us, not the prettiest of football, but not boring head-tennis either, which some of us feared. First half all us, second half Bolton came back a little bit, and yes they pulled a goal back, but then, we came back and shut them up again. Very very early days of course, but so far, so good. No complaints here.

Totally in favour of the idea

Of course I don't want them to stay up. I don't think they'll be relegated this year though.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3PETGLeQv88

Aye

No problem with the TUs whatsoever, and at the risk of sounding patronising (I don't mean to be), it's good what the Ultras are doing, actively doing something to try and improve the atmosphere. It's probably a good thing that you made the move during cup games from L7 to the SE corner, because the Charvers were up there as well, and people thought the TUs are Charvers. I'm still not that keen on the name, and I do wonder if that maybe puts people off, but then if you lot are happy with it, maybe that's something I/others have to get over - I think everyone pretty much knows that the TUs aren't about violence like Italian or Spanish Ultra groups. I also think that your age range (15-21) may be a problem for older people who maybe feel uncomfortable about being in something with 'a bunch of kids'. But again, that's not neccessarily the TUs problem or fault. I like the idea of getting new songs in though, we do need some fresh things, and singing 'Newcastle' to tunes everyone sings gets a bit boring.

Nope just SA, along with the bloke off Century. After SA left, Malcolm Macdonald did a bit, but I didn't stop around for that.

Yes, isn't it obvious? A 12th man on the pitch is bound to make a difference! Ha! apologies for the mistake everyone, you know what I mean (4-3-3)

It was interesting stuff, although they were no doubt careful with the questions selected. Some of the questions were pre-done on .cock, but they apparently had people coming around with bits of paper you could write a question on, and they answered some of them as well - but I was upstairs, and no one came near us with any bits of paper. Anyway, as I say it was interesting. Here's a summery of the main stuff. He started by saying that he had outstayed his welcome and Bolton, and that he “must have been mad” to turn down managing Newcastle, when the job was offered to him three years ago. Turning to the topic of the backroom staff, Allardyce revealed that he intends to build a team of 18 to 20 people in various positions to work with the first team squad. Ideally, he’d like his backroom team to be people who have been rejected as youngsters or who have had their careers ended through injury, and have then gone to University to study Sports Science or Sports Psychology. He feels that people that have done this have a ‘football mentality’ and can understand what it is to be a footballer. He commented that missing out on Europe this season may work in United’s favour. It would allow more time between games to implement the new training methods and resolve the injury problems. He has been speaking to a number of players who feel that they have been rushed back from injuries in the past. Allardyce thinks that it is no good rushing a player back who is only 80 or 90 per cent, as they are not fully fit and will simply break down again, thereby worsening the club’s injury problems. Players must be allowed to make full recoveries before taking part in games again. Allardyce also revealed that he hasn’t made a final decision on who is to captain Newcastle this season, and that it might even be a player he is yet to sign – he is still hoping to bring in three or four new faces before the season starts. When asked if reports in tonight’s Evening Chronicle were true, that he is looking to sell Obafemi Martins in order to raise funds for new signings, he responded with a firm and confident ‘no’. No names of new signings were mentioned, but he is looking to bring in a left back. He also said that the squad was in need of ‘big defenders’ to play against big opposition players, and that they are also needed to defend against set pieces, as many games are won or lost on a free kick or a corner. Allardyce cited, the friendly match with Carlisle as an example. Newcastle, he said had played the better football and dominated the game, but went a goal down through a free kick, and therefore ended up with a draw when they had deserved a win. Allardyce wants to instill the new training methods into the players this season, so that when new players join the club, it is not just him and his coaching staff who are telling them what to do, and that the players are also showing them what to and helping them as well. That way everyone is in it together, fighting for each other. Tactics-wise, Allardyce said that he prefers to use 4-3-3 over 4-4-2, as he feels it allows more players to both defend (5 rather than 4) and attack (3 rather than 2). However, tactics have to be altered according to the opposition. He feels that while Newcastle has good players, Manchester United’s players are better, and therefore it wouldn’t make sense to play the way they do against them, as they will win. What you have to do, is play another way, and try to confuse them. Allardyce cited his time at Bolton. Over the last ten games in which Bolton played Arsenal, they won five, drew three and lost only two. Despite Arsenal having better players, Bolton played a system which upset Arsenal, and “kicked the s*** out of them”. When asked about how he gets perceived ‘bad boys’ to play for him, Allardyce revealed that you have to find out what went wrong at their previous club, that he talks to the player in question and finds out what he can do for that player to help him and make him feel wanted. On a similar subject, discussing his management technique he said that he uses different techniques for different players. You have to ‘bollock’ some players, because that’s what they respond to best, but that doing the same to another player might make him completely lose his confidence, and so you have to use another tactic to get the best out of them. He said that something he has learnt is that “you can’t go fighting people.” He revealed that as a young manager he wanted “to fight everyone” but it doesn’t work (something we know only too well from the Souness era). On the question of what he would change about Football, he feels that the offside law needs to be looked at. He doesn’t know what it is anymore, nor do the players, the referees or linesmen. It is inconsistent, FIFA and UEFA need to resolve this and clearly define the law. Allardyce was also asked what motivates him, to which he answered that he wanted to put something back. He had achieved his childhood dream of being a professional footballer, and then having retired, he felt a ‘hole’ which could only be replaced by either managing or coaching – besides “I know bugger all about anything else”.