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She just doesn't sound right.

I was sat in the Leazes and was surprised when the ref gave the pen. Contact was made but the ball was at least 3 yards away. It was the type of decision the home side usually gets imo.

Maradona Platini Van Basten. Loads more who push them close too - Baresi, Maldini, Ronaldo, Zidane, Gullit, Shearer, Matthaus, Stoichkov, Rivaldo... you could go on for ages.

Still not too late...

I've seen the 'green shoots of recovery'. We're going to score first and win it comfortably.

Got a feeling we're going to twat them.

Can't argue with that one like. Fucking hell!

Depends on what you mean by D-Day. It's not a 'win or get sacked' game but if he should lose to Blackburn and then again to Arsenal on Wednesday then he'd be under severe pressure. Still think he should be given the season regardless mind.

KC's? Please don't tell me you've already given your absurdity an acronym. At best it's very subjective. At worst it's a steaming pile of pigshit.

They haven't decided the Jan strategey yet? Wierd imo. Maybe they have but the discussions didn't involve Allardyce...

£1 you say.....

You reckon? I'm not convinced the clubs give a monkey's what we really think. Results (money) are all that matter IMO. Obviously the two tend to go hand-in-hand. Not saying I agree with it like but, by and large, aye! If the fans of the vast majority of clubs kick off big time, the manager inevitably goes shortly after. If we'd given it our all on Saturday and simply been beaten by the better side, resulting in a decent reception at full time, do you think the club would view it any differently? I don't. Same as I don't think they would have been bothered about the plenty of people massively unimpressed even when we were winning games. This is football clubs in general btw, not necessarily our new lot. That's fair enough. I just think the pressure to sack the boss starts from the fans. Results and poor performances might be the reason for the unrest but if every game was played behind closed doors then I think managers would last longer than they do. Hearing thousands of fans mouthing off must have registered and planted a seed of doubt in Ashley's mind. He wouldn't be human if he was able to completely ignore it all. I've never heard a substitution cause so much bother amongst fans as the Milner one. Piss the fans off on a major scale and you're on borrowed time imo. Not quite sure how Mort and Ashley will play this but I hope they're patient enough to give the bloke a chance.

You reckon? I'm not convinced the clubs give a monkey's what we really think. Results (money) are all that matter IMO. Obviously the two tend to go hand-in-hand. Not saying I agree with it like but, by and large, aye! If the fans of the vast majority of clubs kick off big time, the manager inevitably goes shortly after.

In football today, fans get managers sacked. You might not like it or agree with it but on Saturday, Sam lost a fair % of the fans with some of his decisions. Personally, I'll stick by him til the end of the season and judge him in May but I'll also admit to being totally baffled by some of the things that he's doing and the way he's got us set up. He can't afford too many more performances like that though.

Fucking hell man...

Me too. Meaningless friendlies throughout the year or proper games with a bit of an edge? No contest tbh. blueyes.gif

I agree with you. He's seeing out his retirement playing fat knackers in California. If we're turning to him in moments of need, then we really are fucked. I know his cross for Crouch was excellent yesterday, but I don't care, he should have stayed dropped when McClown dropped him in the first place. The worst thing last night was the level of desperation in general. It was desperate. Desperate. Bang on. blueyes.gif Thing is, he's now stuck on 99 caps....

still feel that way ? Absolutely. Hauling off SWP, the only one who was having any joy at all, for the ridiculously unfit Beckham. Yeah, I'll stick with it. http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage.jpg You seemed to have missed the small fact that Beckham actually had an assist whereas SWP for all his running produced zilch of end product in the first 45, not to mention that SWP is partially culpable for not tracking Olic all the way for the second goal. Or maybe you just have difficulty conceding to facts when it goes against your pre determined judgment of Beckham Dear me! Untwist those knickers. Beckham is finished as a player and shouldn't be anywhere near the International squad imo. If you don't agree, fair enough.

still feel that way ? Absolutely. Hauling off SWP, the only one who was having any joy at all, for the ridiculously unfit Beckham. Yeah, I'll stick with it. http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-bird-cat-cage.jpg

I hope that's tongue in fucking cheek Jon!

May just level the playing field a little if it comes down like... [/tinhat]

Souness? *chortle, chortle*

Not one of the players you mention got near the form Beckham did for Madrid though. Basically there is fuck all there. Milner has held down the slot in the U21s fo years and wont do it, Walcott is too raw. Bentley, Lennon and SWP are decent but not exactly top class. Sadly, the Ginger prick was given little alternative given the form of Beckham earlier in the year and the lack of talent here. Perhaps Joe Cole would be better than the alternatives there but again he isnt top class either and then we have fuck all on the left (not that he especially good there). And they're not going to get any better while he plays Beckham out there. His time has come and gone. Time to build for the future, no? It's a 1 off match, everything is on the line. He'd be mad not to play Beckham. Doesn't deserve to be in the squad full stop imo. All about opinions and all that though... Everything is on the line? Give over! A match at home against an ordinary team who has nothing to play for, only needing a draw to go through. McClaren will never be as lucky again if he lives to be 100.

Not one of the players you mention got near the form Beckham did for Madrid though. Basically there is fuck all there. Milner has held down the slot in the U21s fo years and wont do it, Walcott is too raw. Bentley, Lennon and SWP are decent but not exactly top class. Sadly, the Ginger prick was given little alternative given the form of Beckham earlier in the year and the lack of talent here. Perhaps Joe Cole would be better than the alternatives there but again he isnt top class either and then we have fuck all on the left (not that he especially good there). And they're not going to get any better while he plays Beckham out there. His time has come and gone. Time to build for the future, no?

One of the few things that ginger prick got right was binning Beckham. He was producing next to nothing in his last few games and he was correctly dropped. However, he buckled and gave in to pressure from the media and recalled him, the spineless twat. He should have stuck to his guns and found a replacement who actually had a future in the game. The day Beckham signed for LA he basically retired from competitive football. He's not fit and has barely kicked a ball for months and he still gets picked because he's nearly got 100 caps. What happened to building a squad for the future? SWP, Bentley, Walcott, Lennon should all be tried out there rather than wheeling out this wanker in the vain hope of filling Wembley and giving little David his 100th cap. Fuck off McClaren.