Spider Jerusalem

Overall Wiley had a bloody awful game, as a lot of the refs the come up here do, trying to prove how 'tough' they are and give fuck all to us. The Caroll incident with an arm in the back would have been a 'stone wall' penalty in any match involving the top four in Sky's eyes but overlooked for us. The one just after half time on Bellamy by Bassong should have been a penalty, but Wiley didn't give it as he should have given the foul on Bassong prior to that. Then we had the hand ball mid way in the second half. Fine - he was two foot away, but if you jump up like you're a basket ball defender with your arms above your head then surely there is at least some sort of intent. And the disallowed goal - there was a hell of a lot less contact than the Carroll incident, but one is called and one is isn't, strangely enough both against the team in balck and white. Resepect the Referee. Respect is earned, not given and most of these fuckers get the 'respect' that they deserve and Alan Wiley is the short, barrel shaped, hairier version of Steve Bennet who I wouldn't piss on if he was on fire.

At least he doesn't look as much of a twat as Defoe the other day though http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45351000/jpg/_45351822_defoe.jpg Grandad Defoe! Looks like he stole that from Freddie Ljungberg's wardrobe. With regard to today I really do not have a good feeling about this one. Bellamy will be up for this one, and is Scott Parker available? Also Dyer is on the bench so we could see him turn up for the hero's scoring return. Or knack his hamstring the first time he sprints in the cold.

Does anyone have any idea how much the academy costs us per year, as Peter Ramage, Steven Taylor and Shola as well as supplying lower league teams free transfers is looking like a bit costly.

Brilliant. Delighted. Ecstatic. Elated. We have managed to nail the player nobody wants down to an overly long contract. Unless he's announced this to Sky Sports after finding his current contract and thinking it's a new one.

http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/01/06/cautious-kinnear-expects-long-game-61634-22615512/ Deja vu? I love the line 'The club’s interest in Barry Ferguson has waned after it became public over the weekend' - who on Earth was it that made the interest public?

If that's true then I'd like to ask him why he loves Shola so much. Not having the basic aptitude of a striker is what has made him stand out from his peers!

They can shove it up thier bums! They are in a precarious position (especially after the weekend's result against Forest) and we should be trying to push them as high as they will go, and if that's not around £15m tell them to piss off - if they rate Parker at a reported £12m then Given is worth more than that surely. Mind, that's if Given really does want to go.

As little as I think of Mike Ashley's suitability of running a football club, I would say that it would be insanity for him to be trying to relegate us deliberately. In the current economic climate he could be putting his future at risk as well as ours by deliberately 'killing' one of his highest profile assets.

Surely not.....

What the hell are you on about - as I have stated on a number of occasions on this thread you stated that we had spent a lot of money. I pointed out that we had brought more in, after which you then went off at a tangent about quality etc. Now you go on to assume that I think that we should back the current manager to the hilt. If I had my way then he wouldn't be any where near the club, but once he has been hired he has to backed to some extent. Although, isn't that what Little Dennis is supposed to be doing and bringing in the players, not the manager? As Far as Ashley is concerned, he deserves having a dig made after failing to invest in the squad, coming up with nothing but excuses when investment was required and the overall running of the club in the past six months. the "tangent" should have showed you that the money we brought in was for crap and/or want away players and not selling a good player to fund transfers. but this is apparently irrelevant because it brings the net spend down. back the manager or dont back the manager? "to SOME extent" so you DONT want significant money available for kinnear but you DO want significant money available? make your mind up. in that case, have a dig at keegan. fucked off and didnt look back. or dont, whichever suits your "stance". Fucking hell, you're as bad as NE5, or even more deluded. Let's have a dig at Keegan then. Aye he fucked off after three matches and left us right in the shit. After being promised funds to rebulid, being told (as we were publicly via the media) that he was in charge of who we would bring in, was hauled over the coals (publicly) after having the nerve to say that we were not going to challenge Chelsea after watching them give us a good bumming in the face on our own ground (but then that type of comment may have an effect on the impending season ticket renewals that were due). And to top that off only one of his targets was purchased over the summer and had two players of questionable quality that he didn't want foisted on him on the last day of the transfer window after having his only right winger sold from under him. Oh, not to mention having the entire squad put up for transfer on the last day of the window - Ashley is a master strategist if he thinks having no squad is going to win matches. I really think he should have stayed as he was getting backed to the hilt, wasn't he? Or do you want to ingore all of that given your stance as an Ashley Apologist. The 'quality' players that we actually paid for we spunked more than a quarter of the total outlay this summer on Xisco, who is one of the players that we are allegedly trying to shove out of the door. But as an Ashley Apologist this will just be ignored. With regards to the Milner situation, Villa had been sniffing around for a while and had put his request in a week before the window shut - so we could have had a replacement lined up before he went. Or had a replacement already in as this was one of the positions we had no cover in last season. But announccing that he wants away a few days before the window shuts is a really good way of getting any potential buyer to up thier price and panic buy, bringing in enough money to cover your outgoings, and even bring in a nice little profit. But again, in your stance of Ashley Aplogist will make you a bit blinkered towards this. Oh, and Allerdyce was complaining from the transfer window about the lack of movement from the management team in bringing in players causing us to miss targets, not just after he was sacked. But as Ashley Apologists seem to be astute at doing, don't let things like this shake your opionion that under his stweardship this club is in a complete shambles.

Bloody Hell! This one's a bit early. We don't even know which players will be here yet. Well, still here........

If Martins had missed that chance that Owen chipped wide toontastic would go into meltdown. But then toontastic is a bit mental. Running at pace, with a keeper and defender bearing down on you he did well to ge the ball as close as he did. Any way, Martins first touch and passing are the problem.

I would love to have thought that Mr Nut, but Villa had been sniffing round for three transfer windows and then he left with a few days to spare, after handing in a transfer request a week before. If the club had any sort of transfer strategy they would have had some sort of replacement lined up before he left, or even as cover, as this was one of the positions that we have had no cover for in the previous season. The cynic in me has said,since Sep 2nd, that he was sold to cover the transfer fee for Collocini, which was only backed up by Mr Balls of Iron giving up without a fight when a bunch of middle aged guys paraded a banner around St James' a few days later asking him to leave.

Only seen the minimum highlights on ITV but got to agree from what I saw there. But now he's in the spotlight. Mind, Curbishley said he thought he wouldn't move and was just making his concerns public. After a new job in the summer Alan, and want to make life easier?

What the hell are you on about - as I have stated on a number of occasions on this thread you stated that we had spent a lot of money. I pointed out that we had brought more in, after which you then went off at a tangent about quality etc. Now you go on to assume that I think that we should back the current manager to the hilt. If I had my way then he wouldn't be any where near the club, but once he has been hired he has to backed to some extent. Although, isn't that what Little Dennis is supposed to be doing and bringing in the players, not the manager? As Far as Ashley is concerned, he deserves having a dig made after failing to invest in the squad, coming up with nothing but excuses when investment was required and the overall running of the club in the past six months.

But Ashley didn't back the manager did he - Allerdyce went on a rant about how they f*cked his plans up by acting too slowly and not getting the first choice players that he had lined up. Not to mention how he treated Keegan over the summer - full backs! But let's not digress - the initial post was stating that we had spent loads of money in the summer. We brought in more. FACT!

Er no - you said we've spent a load of cash, when we clearly haven't. We also spent a load of cash last year (mostly based on player sales again) and bought absolute gash in the likes of Alan Smith as a replacement. The net spend looks shit (since Ashley came through the door) for one reason, and one reason only. Because the net spend is shit. If the rumours about the transfer budget of £6m are true then what has happened to the Milner money? Or was he sold to make up the deficit, making a nice profit on the net transfer spend to boot?

We did indeed spend a lot of money. Danny Guthrie £2.5m Sebastien Bassong £2 Fabricio Coloccini £9.1m Francisco Jiminez Tejada "Xisco"£5m That makes a total of £19.1m, .....however we also brought in a lot of money through player sales. David Rozehnal DEF Lazio £2.9m Emre £3m Abdoulaye Faye £2.25m James Milner £12 Which makes around £20.15m coming in. I've used the 'best' figures that I can find - unfortuately with the lack of transparency we can only go on rumoured transfer fees from news sites and NUFC.com. As for Modric - Rooney smokescreen in my books. Mind after watching him, I much prefer Jonas TBH. Scored a John Dahl Tommasonn 'cracker' last night though. rozenhal was crap - good price for him. possibly broke even. emre probably played 1 in 5 and was good for 1 in his 5 - good price, big wages gone. almost broke even. was anyone sad to see him go? faye wanted to leave - broke even. milner also wanted to leave - £12 million for an average player hardly anyone rated. also left in the last few days of the window giving us little chance of finding a decent replacement/use for the funds. all in all, very good business there. The reply was in regards to how much we spent in summer, not quailty of players. We actually made a profit on transfers in the summer, which takes us from being one of the biggest spending clubs in the world, to nearer the lowest spending club in the Premier League. That's one hell of a demotion.

Just going on the rumours and the names that have been thown about for the past few months are Xisco and Enrique. But this whole thread is based on nothing but rumour, from the £6m transfer budget onwards.

To be totally honest I am not even sure why I was attempting to use the previous mob as a yard stick for running a football club - we (almost) all know on this board that they were a bunch of cocks, taking far more out than they put in and pulling out a trophy signing whenever the pressure was on. Again, it's rant mode and blinkers on. However, until I'm proven wrong, all I can see under the current regime is more of the same here. A few million to paper over the cracks and keep us in the league until the markets improve and Ashley can offload us for a profit, with any large offer for any squad member accepted as long as it gives a profit.

We did indeed spend a lot of money. Danny Guthrie £2.5m Sebastien Bassong £2 Fabricio Coloccini £9.1m Francisco Jiminez Tejada "Xisco"£5m That makes a total of £19.1m, .....however we also brought in a lot of money through player sales. David Rozehnal DEF Lazio £2.9m Emre £3m Abdoulaye Faye £2.25m James Milner £12 Which makes around £20.15m coming in. I've used the 'best' figures that I can find - unfortuately with the lack of transparency we can only go on rumoured transfer fees from news sites and NUFC.com. As for Modric - Rooney smokescreen in my books. Mind after watching him, I much prefer Jonas TBH. Scored a John Dahl Tommasonn 'cracker' last night though.

I don't think we did. I admit that the 'year on year' part was an exaggeration - but you do that when you're off on a bit a rant. But we did manage to make a profit from 2002 - 2005 (I think) - which is a hell of a lot more than most of the Premier League Clubs - until the disaster season when we let Souness spunk away any cash that we had. However, after Ashley 'paid off all of the clubs debt' last year then surely any money coming into the club should be invested back into the club. So that and the 20 million pound that he invests each year of his own money surely made up for any short fall and sqaud investment. Unless we made a 50 - 60 million pound loss last year.

We'd sell Martins to fund it. And fail to spend the rest, with it disappearing into the mysterious vortex with the SKY cash.

If Kinnears comments are true then this is neither driving the club forward, or running the club responsibly. Selling players at a massive loss (all purchased under Ashley's stewardship if the rumours are true) from an already paper thin squad and investing next to nothing (in football terms) are not a sound way to run a football club. The biggest asset that any club has are not the fixtures and fittings, the staduim or the seats inside but the squad. Under his 'responsible' leadership we have ended up moving from a squad that contained many exciting, talented (admittedly injury prone) individuals to a squad of slow, past it (again injury prone) cloggers with the few decent players we have left being linked with moves away or winding thier contracts down. Under the previous regime we were able to bring in players, pay the debt, pay the management and pay a dividend to shareholders and still make a profit year on year. Admittedly last year we didn't have European footbal and the income that generates but that should have been easily offset by the massive cash injection from the SKY money last year. What has changed in the past year and a half to have us scraping around looking at the likes of Barry Ferguson - strangely enough another injury prone, slow, past it clogger.

And who propogated those 'lurid allegations' pray tell? I seem to recall this bunch of Hacks selling papers based on the alleged gang rape a few years back for around a month - with the spotlight pointing directly at Titus. When the charges were dropped, the story on that was buried on page 2 (the politics page that everyone ignores) and took up around one and a half column inches and two paragraphs. It's a bit different when it's one of thier butt-buddies caught in the shit though.