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They stand out like a sore thumb. If someone makes an observation that they've already heard someone make, they roll their eyes and shout "GIGGS!" for a start.

One ticket arrived today. Wish my mates would catch me up on loyalty points

Guess who were on last week http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74/features/wonga-account-fraud

Applying for me and my dad together on my card, guess I need to put my signature on the bit at the end after the card payment bit and not his?

Right, time to work out how the fuck to do this then

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8154563/

20 pages of championing personal responsibility 'If you get into a deal with a company like Wonga it's your own fault, it's your choice, no-one forces you to' and then when it looks like there might be repercussions from us signing up to a four year deal with a company whose business model is seen as immoral and potentially illegal somehow it's not fair. Yeah, hypocrisy is the word.

Sounds very much like the FA may place restrictions on where they can use the branding from some of these articles like

If it was a player in Peta I imagine they might have put up with Tesco even though they sold meat, but might have reservations about being sponsored by Huntington Life Sciences

It's alright they won't be able to read the repossession notices. Well this is kind of another point, isn't it, there are much better solutions out there such as credit unions, but the people who need them don't find out about them because credit unions can't spend £24m advertising it. If you don't have the internet etc to do your research and you desperatley need £50 to pay someone who's threatening you with whatever, the only place you might know to go to is one of these guys. If you're a rich chap who owes £50,000, you can probably have your accountant negotiate with the person making the threats and probably point out these threats aren't legal, you can get advice, you can get a loan at a ore reasonable rate, you still have day to day living expenses covered. If you've got literally nowt, you'll probably end up at one of these guys, and in those 5 minutes they're not going to find out if you're just some wide-boy who can't wait to buy the new FIFA or if you have a mental age of 12, don't know what you're getting yourself into and have no idea how you'll be able to pay it back with the amount of added interest.

This is just the people who've actually taken out loans by the way not the people who end up being hounded for money they haven't borrowed seeing as you can just ring up with a name and address and get approved in the space of a few sentences. Which I guess could even happen to this meeting of the finest minds of our time, not just to the sub-human scum who've lost their job and haven't got the knowhow or the lack of morals to game the benefits system or hotwire a car instead.

Using some of the logic on this thread, is it possible for anyone to prey on the desperate and vulnerable? Illegal loan sharks? Dodgy door-to-door double glazers knocking on old folks doors? Confidence tricksters? Drug dealers? Protection rackets? Gang masters? People traffickers? Crooked landlords? Pimps? It's easy to say "Oh, well, they shouldn't have got involved in it", not so much when you're desperate, have mental health problems or are semi-literate.

But the MPs that are currently pissing on your cornflakes are the ones who are trying to do just that and get laws passed to prevent this type of thing, being stopped by the ones who are avoiding your abuse by trying to keep a low profile and keeping quiet.

Be funny if they feel they can ride on the supposed good-will of the stadium name change, try and do some promo stuff on the pitch at half time and get fucking dogs' abuse.

Maybe the extra spotlight this deal has put on their shady and dubiously legal practices will be the what activists and fans groups needed to push through legislation and ruin them

As mentioned in the article above, lots of MPs and football fans have been going on about this for ages. They're just able to get on the front page about it easier at the moment because of a big money deal at a big money club. That's Wonga and NUFC's fault for doing the multi-million pound deals with the specifc intent of generating publicity, not the fault of MPs or fans groups.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/oct/09/newcastle-united-wonga-deal?newsfeed=true

if you mean peoples grandma and grandads, if they didnt have they money they didnt have it. as simple as that. There's always been money lenders. most just went without though. Or they were exploited in other ways, by crooked landlords and employers who forced them to work long hours with little or no pay in dangerous working conditions. Their fault for taking up the job or tennancy though.

And? People chose to do a lot of things for different reasons, it doesn't make it right and let's be honest nobody would make that choice unless they had to. I don't like companies like Wonga, but they aren't doing anything illegal so there's not much I can do about it. Take it up with your MP, maybe that one who's got her knickers in a twist and see if you can get them outlawed if you feel strongly enough about it. It could actually happen. Stella Creasy has been pursuing this for years .

Ever so slight difference regarding legality there. But people aren't talking about legality, they're talking about morality - but as it comes up anyway, the legality of Wonga's operation comes into regular question. The company could see its business model effectively outlawed at pretty much any point over the course of the four years.

Hope our next sponsor is a heroin dealer. I mean, they're not bad people, it's people's own stupid fault for buying it.

Telegraph Sport ‏@TelegraphSport Wonga pay #NUFC £4m PA. By our calculations, if Wonga loaned you £4M your annual interest would be £164M (Plus £5.50 transmission fee)

Well, don't have to wonder if I'll end up shelling out for a strip for the next four years, must be the first time these arseholes have actually saved someone money.

Club behaving in a classy manner again http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/all-news/sunderland-pub-landlord-ordered-to-take-down-safc-flags-by-stadium-of-light-bosses-1-5004714