Wullie

Christ, the thought of that disgusting slug Bruce in charge of NUFC makes me feel ill.

All things considered, the best person ever associated with NUFC.

I can't sympathise with anyone who didn't want him gone after Southampton away last season. Completely dominated by a newly promoted side following two dismal home defeats to West Ham and Swansea. He has been given a preposterous amount of credit for 11/12, a season only worth watching for about six or seven games. Nothing there any better then when Fat Sam finished in a European place at Bolton.

I am extremely shocked and surprised by this news.

I was wrong, turns out the expert analysis from Lee Dixon is that "it's about goals going in or... goals going in... at the other end" Cheers Lee.

My money's on: in about twenty seconds time.

:lol:

Give over. In the sense that he ticks a few of Mike's boxes he is (English, experienced, never complained much about lack of ambition/funds at Everton). Significant upgrade on Pardew, although I can see where you and others are coming from in terms of style of play. Shame Ashley is not bothered about such concepts as entertainment and attacking football. I don't mean that, I mean our "set-up" - i.e. you'll get what you're given and make do, and it'll mainly be cheap and French. Couldn't think of anyone worse than Moyes to try and make that work (that's a lie, I can think of plenty, one in particular but you know what I mean), and that's not a criticism of him.

Anyone who thinks Steve Bruce is capable of managing Newcastle needs to stop listening to those Alan Pardew motivational cassette tapes they got for Christmas.

Give over.

"Better" is subjective. Moyes does some things better, Martinez does others better. If I could have either tomorrow, it would be the latter 100% but that doesn't mean I don't think Moyes is very capable. Personally I've had it with managers that take an overly cautious approach to the game. After 3 years of Pardew's dross, I need to be excited, I want to look forward to watching us again. Life's too short.

That's one of the dumbest things you've said, and by God you've said some dumb things. He also has a relegation to his name, if we're going to make stupid arguments. Moyes is a good manager. Martinez is a good manager. Martinez has benefited massively from the foundation that Moyes built at Everton. His teams leaked goals for fun at Wigan, and he wasn't able to fix it over three God damn years, that's how good he was. Moyes created a solid foundation and Martinez has expanded on it, but credit still must be given to Moyes for building the team. Let's judge Everton three years down the line when Martinez has time to sign more players like Alcaraz and that gimp he spent £5m on who hasn't done shit. Yes his philosophy is to be admired and yes Everton have been brilliant to watch, but Moyes' track record is far better because he experienced sustained success. Martinez's success so far has been fleeting. I'd take Moyes over Martinez if I had to pick one manager today for our club, given our (self imposed) financial constraints. Martinez is the better candidate if you have the money to sign the best players but we don't and won't ever, and Moyes has proven himself at a club like us. How are Everton, where Moyes had free rein to buy exactly the players he wanted and build exactly the structure he wanted, a "club like us"? He couldn't be less of a fit for what we are tbh.

Ben Arfa plays too deep to be allowed any individuality. He really only wants the "magic" from a centre forward. Even in a 4-3-3, the two wide forwards are only there to hold the full back's hand for them.

Which numbers? I know he spent canny fairly big on a few players but there were some big incoming fees and long stretches where they signed nobody at all. Total expenditure was ~£177m. There was some big money came in but it was always reinvested with more on top until the last year or two. They regularly shelled out upwards of £20m a season in the mid 2000s. Re: the long stretches, they only spent £1.5m in the summer of 10/11 but every other summer under Moyes they spent at least £6m+ and usually more than £10m. In fairness at the time it probably didn't feel like they were spending a lot compared to what they were getting from his management and what others were spending. From the perspective of a Newcastle fan in 2014, Everton's numbers between 2002-2010 look like Man City gone mad. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/everton-fc/transferbilanz/verein_29.html

tmonkey nailed it tbh. Moyes wouldn't touch a club with our transfer policy. He did very much change his style of play between the beginning and end of his Everton career, but changed it on the extremely solid base he'd built himself. It's a very interesting question of can he repeat that at another club, and how would he need to go about it? It's a complete myth that he had nowt to spend for most of his tenure mind. The numbers say otherwise.

Just listened to tonight's Total Sport. There's radio programmes in oppressive regimes all over the world with more transparency than that show.

Ben Arfa would be persona non grata under Moyes just as much as he is now imo.

Fucking Everton fans telling us how happy we should be with their cast offs.

Hmm If they asked the same bloke about us, I've no doubt whatsoever he'd say what a marvellous job Pardew is doing. They're all full of shit and will say whatever they think they're supposed to.

Absolute cunts, Brighton.

Pretty much how I feel.

Fuck's sake. Another one down while we're stuck with this cunt.

Arsenal fans absolutely detest Pardew too, it's just going to be 60000 people hating his guts and making it known from start to finish. I can't wait tbh.