BottledDog

Oh dear.

In terms of people coming in it was great, just the setup that failed. Bassong, Guthrie, Gutiérrez, Coloccini...

Video: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19378900 Hamann talks about his transfer from NUFC to Liverpool. Aye but its not the way to behave, and to be fair to most player they dont act like that to get their own way. If they really want to move (like Savage and Hamman themselves there, or more recently possibly Carroll, Cassano, Dempsey, Given, Fletcher, Bolasie, Olsson, Jarvis, Berra, Holt, Bunn etc etc etc), more will than won't imho. So wrong though, so disrepectful to the club you are playing for and especially the fans. Savage was prime example of how arrogant and distasteful footballers can be. He reckoned he wanted to move to be closer to his family and promptly joined a club actually further away than the one he left. Edit : Holt didn't move in the end though did he ?. Nope. It was rejected. /and fair play to him, he signed a new contract.

He's doing a surprisingly bad job of both if that's the case.

Aye, love that to be the case. Problem is imo, Ashely wont sanction loans as he thinks its wasted money. Carroll on loan to begin with was only because we would have bought him at the end. Could be that sort of loan for someone else. Hopefully. Same with Ben Arfa. We had no problem paying his wages and a £2m loan fee just to get him over, without any guarantee of him choosing to sign on permanently. I meant after Hoots left mate. We haven't loaned a player since Pardew became manager have we ? Sometimes i think its an avenue we could look down more, try before you buy and all that, Not sure Pards would take a different stance to Hughton; Think he was just suggesting we wouldn't do standard loans to benifit a players development for another club. As you say, if we are pretty certain we can sign them at some stage during or at the end of the loan, I don't think Ashley has any problem going for it.

Video: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19378900 Hamann talks about his transfer from NUFC to Liverpool. Aye but its not the way to behave, and to be fair to most player they dont act like that to get their own way. If they really want to move (like Savage and Hamman themselves there, or more recently possibly Carroll, Cassano, Dempsey, Given, Fletcher, Bolasie, Olsson, Jarvis, Berra, Holt, Bunn etc etc etc), more will than won't imho.

Aye, love that to be the case. Problem is imo, Ashely wont sanction loans as he thinks its wasted money. Carroll on loan to begin with was only because we would have bought him at the end. Could be that sort of loan for someone else. Hopefully. Don't forget Ben Arfa. We had no problem paying his wages and a £2m loan fee just to get him over, without any guarantee of him choosing to sign on permanently.

We apparently bid £12m or whatever on a striker. The money is there to invest, but it's not simply a case of just going out and spending it. Any deal has to be seen as good value and right for the team and the club, something it is obviously hard for us to judge without knowing the ins and outs. To have a squad even vaguely comparable to Tottenham's or Arsenal's 2 years after relegation is pretty staggering when you think about it. Keep the faith.

Video: - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19378900 Hamann talks about his transfer from NUFC to Liverpool. Says something pertinent to our possible transfer policy of going in low which some on here like to take the piss out of. The club receiving an initial offer never accept, they will always ask for more. There is no point offering close to what you think is the true value of a player from the off.

Maybe, but they might not have a choice once Benzema get's his head turned by the prospect of wearing the famous cock on a ball badge, and puts in a transfer request.

Giving the club the benefit of doubt if we fail to bring in certain players this window has no relation to how someone rates Simpson surely? Why not? Whilst I don't agree with the absolute slating Simpson gets most of the time now, the biggest weakness in our team is as clear as can be. We've lined up a well-regarded replacement who not only can we afford, but seems desperate to come. He wouldn't do our chances of keeping hold of Cabaye any harm either. If we fail to get Debuchy then will people shrug their shoulders and accept that the principles come first and therefore what we have will suffice? That it was better to stick with Simpson than compromise with Lille? I doubt it somehow. Comparing this to the Luque deal is ridiculous and does the argument no favours. We'll be ok if we don't bring anyone else in, but like yourself, I'd find it beyond disappointing if we couldn't capitalise on a great season (one that will be very difficult to repeat unless we strengthen considering the state of our rivals last time out), and right back is certainly one of the most obvious places to upgrade. I have enough faith in what we appear to be trying to do though that without knowing the facts yet, see no point apportioning out blame, and can't justify getting angry if we do miss out. It's hard to believe we have given up on a player we clearly highly rate and put at the top of our shopping list because we're haggling with a willing seller over a couple of hundred grand. I'd like to think it was that simple though, because if it is, he'll be with us before the window closes.

Giving the club the benefit of doubt if we fail to bring in certain players this window has no relation to how someone rates Simpson now or in the future surely?

What's to say we haven't? The Journal?

Top quotage.

It's always nice to see some of the smaller teams in the North East trying to better themselves. Helps the stature of the region.

Ha, just seen it (Pardews push injurys (PPI's) claims company advert for those that didn't).

Aye, that'd make me want to cough up a lung too.

Like Tiote would have allowed them to take him off.

Phew, thought my brain broke. Still have no clue what the connection is mind.

Because we also believe that Mike Ashley's a chauvinist, and he's in charge. The fuck? /'inconceivable'

Would love it to be Oba.

Hope we don't lose too heavily. Keep it single figures lads. ta.

Agreed.

Your lass.

Pardews long list of priorities, on which The Europa Cup lies bottom of the pile: 1. The Premiership. 2. The Europa Cup. We refused to enter other competitions this year? Thanks for letting me know. Oh. I'm sorry. Are you suggesting that if Harper plays tonight, Pardew also cares more about FA Cup, the League Cup, and the Fair Play League?